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Author:  DJIDAZ [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Too good to be true?
Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks
Author:  hiteck [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
DJIDAZ wrote:
Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks


If it was the CDG set I'd say yeah to good to be true. The Super CDG's however are more in the price range you quoted. Having said that, I'm not sure if the SCDG's were ever licensed properly.
Author:  Lonman [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
DJIDAZ wrote:
Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks

I'd say it's too good to be true, since the actual original CDG DK Millenium sets USED still command anywhere from $800-1200. Same songs.
Plus what I understand is they are ripped at 128, not very quality sound there.
Author:  JoeChartreuse [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
Lonman wrote:
DJIDAZ wrote:
Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks

I'd say it's too good to be true, since the actual original CDG DK Millenium sets USED still command anywhere from $800-1200. Same songs.
Plus what I understand is they are ripped at 128, not very quality sound there.



I'm seconding Lon here, on all counts. At around 0.11 per track, you're going to get what you pay for.

Plus, it's my understanding that DK never put out an SCDG, so whatever you would be getting would be a reproduction.
Author:  mightywiz [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
just keep watching i bought both sets 1 & 2 for $99.......

they look and play like the dk disc versions

i ripped and converted them to mp3+g and use them in my show... and they go to about
2007 i think cause it has ticks - brad paisley, on it.
Author:  Lonman [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
mightywiz wrote:
just keep watching i bought both sets 1 & 2 for $99.......

they look and play like the dk disc versions

i ripped and converted them to mp3+g and use them in my show... and they go to about
2007 i think cause it has ticks - brad paisley, on it.

That even makes me more leary, DK didn't produce anything in the 2000's other than repackaged lines breaking them down into more group genre like songs over their 18 disc mix of anything.
Author:  mightywiz [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
maybe there japan releases, dk is still alive there.....
Author:  BruceFan4Life [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
I know a guy who bougt a KJ's entire CDG collection for pennies on the dollar from the dead guys wife after the KJ passed away. The deal was too good to be true but legal in every way; as were every one of the discs. Sometimes you just find a great deal on something and the people who paid full price have to cast a dark shadow on it. You all ought to listen to a song called Riding With Private Malone. The guy in the song buys a "66 Corvette for a thousand dollars. WHAT A SUCKER! HUH?
Author:  MADPROAUDIO [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
[quote="DJIDAZ"]Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks[/quote]

In the beginning, dk super cdg was said to have been made possible thru a karaoke company in NY who allegedly purchased the rights from DK to make the disc. (Source was a karaoke discs manufacturer). Then months later after they were on the market, we heard that they were not licensed and the low prices on them were getting rediculous. A manufacturer stated they spoke with an owner of dk who verified that they never made a deal with anyone. So as always, the entire world is confused over what is what. Because of the recent research, questioning,
unraveling we have done, as of 2011, we would not nor will not ever consider providing that disc to any consumer.
In fact, the ONLY scdg discs we feel comfortable selling is the ones DIRECTLY from Cavs or PHM.

What we have learned which will help you answer your own question: ANY and ALL discs on the market. Unless it is some discontinued original cdg, QUESTION where it comes from. Example; These new fast trax disc. Since it is a new release. WHERE is the manufacturer's website? WHO owns the company? WHY is there NO listed trademark on record? Because we cannot answer these questions, we will NEVER sell a fast trax disc! This is our new approach to making decisions on which brands we will sell to a consumer. We truly care about the impact piracy / unfair competition is doing to this market and as we learn more, we are more than happy to show this level of caring through our postings.
Author:  Smoothedge69 [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
DJIDAZ wrote:
Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks

You can find them cheaper on Amazon. Nobody is going to bother you over these discs, since DK is no longer working in this country. If, someday, SC or another mfr buys the catalog then you might have to worry. BTW, they are at 192kb/s not 128. The sound quality is just fine.
Author:  Cueball [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:20 am ]
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MADPROAUDIO wrote:
Unless it is some discontinued original cdg, QUESTION where it comes from. Example; These new fast trax disc. Since it is a new release. WHERE is the manufacturer's website? WHO owns the company? WHY is there NO listed trademark on record? Because we cannot answer these questions, we will NEVER sell a fast trax disc!


Fast Trax was Quick Hitz. I just received an e-mail last month (from a Karaoke Vendor) that Fast Trax has now changed their name again. I can't remember what it is being called now, and I trashed the e-mail (since I have no interest in FT (because they are of extremely poor quality)).
Author:  MADPROAUDIO [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
[quote="Smoothedge69"][quote="DJIDAZ"]Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks[/quote]
You can find them cheaper on Amazon. Nobody is going to bother you over these discs, since DK is no longer working in this country. If, someday, SC or another mfr buys the catalog then you might have to worry. BTW, they are at 192kb/s not 128. The sound quality is just fine.[/quote]


I would have to agree with you that no one is really going to bother you. At this point we feel that if we cannot personally verify the discs through the manufacturer and the people that was rumored to have made them are not
willing to say they did. Then it is yet another slap in the face of your vendors and kj's.
Author:  MADPROAUDIO [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
[quote="Smoothedge69"][quote="DJIDAZ"]Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks[/quote]
You can find them cheaper on Amazon. Nobody is going to bother you over these discs, since DK is no longer working in this country. If, someday, SC or another mfr buys the catalog then you might have to worry. BTW, they are at 192kb/s not 128. The sound quality is just fine.[/quote]cueball wrote:
> [quote="MADPROAUDIO"] Unless it is some discontinued original cdg, QUESTION where
> it comes from. Example; These new fast trax disc. Since it is a new release.
> WHERE is the manufacturer's website? WHO owns the company? WHY is there NO listed
> trademark on record? Because we cannot answer these questions, we will NEVER sell
> a fast trax disc! [/quote]
>
> Fast Trax was Quick Hitz. I just received an e-mail last month that Fast Trax has
> now changed their name. I can't remember what is is being called now, and I trashed
> the e-mail (since I have no interest in FT (because they are of extremely poor quality)).

We spoke with a few major disc sellers and information suggest you are 100% correct that fast traxx and
quick hitz are one in the same. Due to all unanswered questions, we suggest that people fight the urge
to purchase those discs. If we as a dealer are now refusing to sell them, then hopefully that too will give
the kj the strength to demand verfiication on any discs they purchase. It hurts our business not to sell
these disc when everyone else is, yet have made the tough decision not to. The only monthly hits we sell is
PHM. They are the only new hits manufacturer that has over a decade of history, they made the tracks,
registered trademark.
Author:  Kuelman1 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
MADPROAUDIO wrote:
DJIDAZ wrote:
Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks


In the beginning, dk super cdg was said to have been made possible thru a karaoke company in NY who allegedly purchased the rights from DK to make the disc. (Source was a karaoke discs manufacturer). Then months later after they were on the market, we heard that they were not licensed and the low prices on them were getting rediculous. A manufacturer stated they spoke with an owner of dk who verified that they never made a deal with anyone. So as always, the entire world is confused over what is what. Because of the recent research, questioning,
unraveling we have done, as of 2011, we would not nor will not ever consider providing that disc to any consumer.
In fact, the ONLY scdg discs we feel comfortable selling is the ones DIRECTLY from Cavs or PHM.

What we have learned which will help you answer your own question: ANY and ALL discs on the market. Unless it is some discontinued original cdg, QUESTION where it comes from. Example; These new fast trax disc. Since it is a new release. WHERE is the manufacturer's website? WHO owns the company? WHY is there NO listed trademark on record? Because we cannot answer these questions, we will NEVER sell a fast trax disc! This is our new approach to making decisions on which brands we will sell to a consumer. We truly care about the impact piracy / unfair competition is doing to this market and as we learn more, we are more than happy to show this level of caring through our postings.


Just as I was saying in a earlier post no main stream Karaoke retailer is selling this set. I have no malice for those that purchase them and use them but common sense tells me they are not legit.
Author:  MADPROAUDIO [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
Thanks for the feedback on that issue. We BOLDLY challenge the producer of these discs to step forward. Until then, we will not sell them. Thanks again to the members of Karaokescene for allowing us to give a retailers point of view on what we experience. I would like to think we are rare in the sense that everything we do is from the heart.

MADPROAUDIO

Ex Military - Family owned and operated
Author:  Smoothedge69 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
Kuelman1 wrote:
MADPROAUDIO wrote:
DJIDAZ wrote:
Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks


In the beginning, dk super cdg was said to have been made possible thru a karaoke company in NY who allegedly purchased the rights from DK to make the disc. (Source was a karaoke discs manufacturer). Then months later after they were on the market, we heard that they were not licensed and the low prices on them were getting rediculous. A manufacturer stated they spoke with an owner of dk who verified that they never made a deal with anyone. So as always, the entire world is confused over what is what. Because of the recent research, questioning,
unraveling we have done, as of 2011, we would not nor will not ever consider providing that disc to any consumer.
In fact, the ONLY scdg discs we feel comfortable selling is the ones DIRECTLY from Cavs or PHM.

What we have learned which will help you answer your own question: ANY and ALL discs on the market. Unless it is some discontinued original cdg, QUESTION where it comes from. Example; These new fast trax disc. Since it is a new release. WHERE is the manufacturer's website? WHO owns the company? WHY is there NO listed trademark on record? Because we cannot answer these questions, we will NEVER sell a fast trax disc! This is our new approach to making decisions on which brands we will sell to a consumer. We truly care about the impact piracy / unfair competition is doing to this market and as we learn more, we are more than happy to show this level of caring through our postings.


Just as I was saying in a earlier post no main stream Karaoke retailer is selling this set. I have no malice for those that purchase them and use them but common sense tells me they are not legit.


I have different ideas. If they are available, and nobody is taking action against people using them, they are fine to use. Simple as that. Obviously, if they were Sound Choice SCDGs, there would be a problem because SC is so sensitive about how their products are used. DK is gone, and doesn't care. It's all good.
Author:  Lonman [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
Amazing! :roll:
Author:  chrisavis [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
Smoothedge69 wrote:
Kuelman1 wrote:
MADPROAUDIO wrote:
DJIDAZ wrote:
Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks


In the beginning, dk super cdg was said to have been made possible thru a karaoke company in NY who allegedly purchased the rights from DK to make the disc. (Source was a karaoke discs manufacturer). Then months later after they were on the market, we heard that they were not licensed and the low prices on them were getting rediculous. A manufacturer stated they spoke with an owner of dk who verified that they never made a deal with anyone. So as always, the entire world is confused over what is what. Because of the recent research, questioning,
unraveling we have done, as of 2011, we would not nor will not ever consider providing that disc to any consumer.
In fact, the ONLY scdg discs we feel comfortable selling is the ones DIRECTLY from Cavs or PHM.

What we have learned which will help you answer your own question: ANY and ALL discs on the market. Unless it is some discontinued original cdg, QUESTION where it comes from. Example; These new fast trax disc. Since it is a new release. WHERE is the manufacturer's website? WHO owns the company? WHY is there NO listed trademark on record? Because we cannot answer these questions, we will NEVER sell a fast trax disc! This is our new approach to making decisions on which brands we will sell to a consumer. We truly care about the impact piracy / unfair competition is doing to this market and as we learn more, we are more than happy to show this level of caring through our postings.


Just as I was saying in a earlier post no main stream Karaoke retailer is selling this set. I have no malice for those that purchase them and use them but common sense tells me they are not legit.


I have different ideas. If they are available, and nobody is taking action against people using them, they are fine to use. Simple as that. Obviously, if they were Sound Choice SCDGs, there would be a problem because SC is so sensitive about how their products are used. DK is gone, and doesn't care. It's all good.


You are essentially saying that it isn't illegal until you get caught.

Btw.... I have some "Nike's" and a "Rolex" you may be interested in.....

I also have some legal karaoke for sale. It must be legal because I say it is.....

-Chris


-Chris
Author:  Smoothedge69 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
chrisavis wrote:
Smoothedge69 wrote:
Kuelman1 wrote:
MADPROAUDIO wrote:
DJIDAZ wrote:
Just a question to those who have been purchasing songs I saw a listing on eBay, it was the DK millennium super cdg. 900 songs for 100 dollars. Says its brand new. Now that seems to be a good price for the product but that's my worry is that it's too good of a price. What do you think? Thanks


In the beginning, dk super cdg was said to have been made possible thru a karaoke company in NY who allegedly purchased the rights from DK to make the disc. (Source was a karaoke discs manufacturer). Then months later after they were on the market, we heard that they were not licensed and the low prices on them were getting rediculous. A manufacturer stated they spoke with an owner of dk who verified that they never made a deal with anyone. So as always, the entire world is confused over what is what. Because of the recent research, questioning,
unraveling we have done, as of 2011, we would not nor will not ever consider providing that disc to any consumer.
In fact, the ONLY scdg discs we feel comfortable selling is the ones DIRECTLY from Cavs or PHM.

What we have learned which will help you answer your own question: ANY and ALL discs on the market. Unless it is some discontinued original cdg, QUESTION where it comes from. Example; These new fast trax disc. Since it is a new release. WHERE is the manufacturer's website? WHO owns the company? WHY is there NO listed trademark on record? Because we cannot answer these questions, we will NEVER sell a fast trax disc! This is our new approach to making decisions on which brands we will sell to a consumer. We truly care about the impact piracy / unfair competition is doing to this market and as we learn more, we are more than happy to show this level of caring through our postings.


Just as I was saying in a earlier post no main stream Karaoke retailer is selling this set. I have no malice for those that purchase them and use them but common sense tells me they are not legit.


I have different ideas. If they are available, and nobody is taking action against people using them, they are fine to use. Simple as that. Obviously, if they were Sound Choice SCDGs, there would be a problem because SC is so sensitive about how their products are used. DK is gone, and doesn't care. It's all good.


You are essentially saying that it isn't illegal until you get caught.

Btw.... I have some "Nike's" and a "Rolex" you may be interested in.....

I also have some legal karaoke for sale. It must be legal because I say it is.....

-Chris


-Chris

Sorry, I don't wear watches, and I live in flip flops. I hate sneakers. It's too hot down here in Florida to wear shoes.

No, I am not saying that. I am saying that nobody cares. These products are getting sold, and nobody cares. Nobody is complaining about them, except karaoke hosts. DK left this country, and left its music here and doesn't enforce their trademark rights. That is their decision. That doesn't make it legal or illegal. That means whatever is out there is just another source of music. Obviously, DK doesn't seem worried about it, so why should we?? If, in the future, that changes, then I will act accordingly. I certainly will not feel any remorse for using something that nobody but other KJs care about. If you don't like me using my DK SCDGs it does nothing to me. If DK decides they don't like it, then I will deal with it. By that point, I hope to have enough of a collection that removing DK from my system will make little difference. I think some of you make too much of this whole thing. These DK SCDGs are available. They are reasonably priced. DK is no longer in business here in the States, so they make no profit off ANY DK purchase here. That is their choice. Live and let live.
Author:  MADPROAUDIO [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too good to be true?
In the beginning, dk super cdg was said to have been made possible thru a karaoke company in NY who allegedly purchased the rights from DK to make the disc. (Source was a karaoke discs manufacturer). Then months later after they were on the market, we heard that they were not licensed and the low prices on them were getting rediculous. A manufacturer stated they spoke with an owner of dk who verified that they never made a deal with anyone. So as always, the entire world is confused over what is what. Because of the recent research, questioning,
unraveling we have done, as of 2011, we would not nor will not ever consider providing that disc to any consumer.
In fact, the ONLY scdg discs we feel comfortable selling is the ones DIRECTLY from Cavs or PHM.

What we have learned which will help you answer your own question: ANY and ALL discs on the market. Unless it is some discontinued original cdg, QUESTION where it comes from. Example; These new fast trax disc. Since it is a new release. WHERE is the manufacturer's website? WHO owns the company? WHY is there NO listed trademark on record? Because we cannot answer these questions, we will NEVER sell a fast trax disc! This is our new approach to making decisions on which brands we will sell to a consumer. We truly care about the impact piracy / unfair competition is doing to this market and as we learn more, we are more than happy to show this level of caring through our postings.[/quote]

Just as I was saying in a earlier post no main stream Karaoke retailer is selling this set. I have no malice for those that purchase them and use them but common sense tells me they are not legit.[/quote]

I have different ideas. If they are available, and nobody is taking action against people using them, they are fine to use. Simple as that. Obviously, if they were Sound Choice SCDGs, there would be a problem because SC is so sensitive about how their products are used. DK is gone, and doesn't care. It's all good.[/quote]

You are essentially saying that it isn't illegal until you get caught.

Btw.... I have some "Nike's" and a "Rolex" you may be interested in.....

I also have some legal karaoke for sale. It must be legal because I say it is.....

-Chris


-Chris[/quote]
Sorry, I don't wear watches, and I live in flip flops. I hate sneakers. It's too hot down here in Florida to wear shoes.

No, I am not saying that. I am saying that nobody cares. These products are getting sold, and nobody cares. Nobody is complaining about them, except karaoke hosts. DK left this country, and left its music here and doesn't enforce their trademark rights. That is their decision. That doesn't make it legal or illegal. That means whatever is out there is just another source of music. Obviously, DK doesn't seem worried about it, so why should we?? If, in the future, that changes, then I will act accordingly. I certainly will not feel any remorse for using something that nobody but other KJs care about. If you don't like me using my DK SCDGs it does nothing to me. If DK decides they don't like it, then I will deal with it. By that point, I hope to have enough of a collection that removing DK from my system will make little difference. I think some of you make too much of this whole thing. These DK SCDGs are available. They are reasonably priced. DK is no longer in business here in the States, so they make no profit off ANY DK purchase here. That is their choice. Live and let live.[/quote]

I find no fault in ones opinion. No matter right or wrong it is still a very real reaction from said individual. I can honestly tell you that before I was ever exposed to being on the front lines of this industry, I could never truly relate to a persons anguish over piracy issues. It took being in those shoes in order to find absolute appreciation for the subjects. I have friends wanting to give me bootleg movies before they are released and do you know that I cannot blame the average person for never thinking twice about the effect piracy can have. Nor do I have ill will toward them. It's tough turning down a free movie! Yet the direct link to all the harm we have had to endur is what changes ones perspective. Don't hate those that do not feel the severity of it, and don't hate those who are effected by it and fight harder to stop it.
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