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Some major websites are protesting legislation slated for discussion in Congress. Basically, the government will be able to shut down websites if they are found to be distributing pirated material, like music & movies. If I understand correctly, the protest is over 1) the government being given the authority to shut down websites over piracy issues, and 2) Third party websites being held liable and subject to blackout if their members post copyrighted material.

I'm sure there are a lot of opinions on this. As a legitimate karaoke host, I think it's a step in the right direction. However, I have to agree that holding a 3rd Party website accountable for what its members post will probably need some very specific provisions.

The best article I have found is here: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/20 ... 8page%29/2

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IMHO
sopa/pipa bad

DNS filtering BAD

The USA is 12 trillion in debt, and the government cant fix it, do you relay think the US government should be in charge of the WWW?

and from
http://www.1stwebdesigner.com/design/ho ... ffect-you/
concerning SOPA/PIPA


Do you think it will stop piracy?
Everything will just be off shore, and if it gets "blacked listed" in the USA, people will just VPN (or something) to access it off shore.
Just seems like TOO much TOO quick

I'm of two minds about this. I LOVE the idea of shutting down pirate sites, but I hate the precedent that it sets. I really don't want our government full of fatheads doing the same sort of thing that Russia and Red China do- censoring the net.

Tough call...

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Censoring/shutting down an illegal site to begin with I have no issues with.

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Yeah from what I've read SOPA/PIPA give way to much power to the wrong people. There's to much room for abuse and not enough resources/man power to ensure the abuse doesn't happen. I'm all for fighting piracy but SOPA/PIPA in their current form are not the answer.

Here's an example:

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My statements, opinions and conclusions are based on my own personal experiences, observations, research and/or just my own $.02. I'm not a "cheerleader", but that doesn't make me a Pirate.

Hyperbole much?
http://www.copyhype.com/2012/01/hey-wha ... o-to-sopa/

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I feel exactly the same way about it. And forget about the government...it puts too much power in corporate hands.

(These are my personal views only and should not be attributed to my clients. I have not asked and do not know their views.)

Here's a video which shreds the idea of SOPA/PIPA:

http://steve.perusion.com/sopa.mp4

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If the provider and purchaser is outside the US this bill appears to still have no effect on piracy.

Do torrent sites charge for pirated content? Do you have to pay to be a member or something? I thought the torrent community was basically users freely sharing files with one another. How is SOPA/PIPA going to help with this form of distributing pirated material?



A technical examination of SOPA and PROTECT IP

http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technica ... a-and.html

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My statements, opinions and conclusions are based on my own personal experiences, observations, research and/or just my own $.02. I'm not a "cheerleader", but that doesn't make me a Pirate.

In the case of Torrent site - the sites themselves are ad-supported and thus would be subject to scrutiny since they provide tracking and targeting information on intellectual property that is being distributed illegally.

-Chris

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Me either, but once that power has been given, how long do you think it will be before it is misused?

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Thanks Chris, I wasn't aware that there were sites associated with it that received payments for advertising. I thought it was just a server that people connected to and made their hard drives accissible to others on the same service.

With that being the case, if they're not US based servers how is SOPA/PIPA going to help shut them down (i.e. stop piracy). I guess if a US based company was advertising on their site they may be able to stop their payments

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My statements, opinions and conclusions are based on my own personal experiences, observations, research and/or just my own $.02. I'm not a "cheerleader", but that doesn't make me a Pirate.

It's going to require Google, Bing, etc. to scrub them. Plus any other web site. Plus this site, if we allowed links in comments.

In other words, SOPA/PIPA would require every web site operator to police this stuff or face the consequences.

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Well, Facebook opposes SOPA and PIPA

Quoted by:

Mark Zuckerberg
The internet is the most powerful tool we have for creating a more open and connected world. We can't let poorly thought out laws get in the way of the internet's development. Facebook opposes SOPA and PIPA, and we will continue to oppose any laws that will hurt the internet.

The world today needs political leaders who are pro-internet. We have been working with many of these folks for months on better alternatives to these current proposals. I encourage you to learn more about these issues and tell your congressmen that you want them to be pro-internet.

You can read more about our views here: https://www.facebook.com/FacebookDC?sk= ... 9750453932.

Better be careful what you ask for you might just get!

1. Do we know who will determine what is an illegal site? No

2. Will the site be taken down before it has its day in court? Probably

3. Is this really no more than a First Amendment issue limiting free speech? Yes

4. Can they really limit or stop piracy with these purposed actions? No

5. Can outside US internet sites be stopped? Probably not!

6. Will this create a Black Market on blocked content? Yes

This is just another wasted, do nothing bill that will only limit freedom of speech and miss the intended point!



The US is over 15 trillion in debt and Obama has just ask the cap be raised by 1.2 trillion!

gee. isn't sound choice policing their interlectual property themselves?
they are doing something about it. why should a web search provider be forced to do the policing for someone else's product?

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It's all good!

In addition, any corporate snitch can log onto the offending torrent, and gather up the IPs invloved..

Torrents are so 10 years ago..

Makes you wonder if the govt. is in control of anything--just read that the F.B.I. shut down and arrested the founders of the Megaupload site and in retaliation, hackers have disabled the websites for the Justice Dept., The Motion Picture Association and the R.I.A.A. People are really serious about their right to steal anything that can be put on the internet. If the Justice Dept. can't stay on top of it, makes you wonder how in he heck Sound Choice could have protected themselves.

This is a point so missed.
SoundChoice if they p1ssed off the wrong people would have been wiped out.

The government is working with the best hackers they have.

There is better out there.
It is actually frightening.

Obama has his finger on the button.
along with 10000 others.

Very few people have any sympathy for the copyright holders. Among other things, the grab of copyright extension -- the Copyright Term Extension Act, AKA Mickey Mouse Protection Act -- has completely perverted the intent of our founding fathers. Copyright holders made a ton of money on their stuff, then used it to buy Congress to extend their gold mine.

The motion picture companies apparently believe that this state of affairs is their birthright. And not many real people have much sympathy for them as a result. A company like Sound Choice gets confused with them, naturally.

In addition, they failed to understand and acquiesce to the state of affairs, naively listening to charlatans who sold them DRM that was trivially defeated. The industry has shot themselves in the foot at every turn, and now they try to subvert our legislative process to try and make up for their missteps. I say subvert, because the people didn't want SOPA, but they would have passed it anyway if they could have gotten away with it. Just like they did with CTEX.

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