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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:55 am 
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In an effort to do the right thing -

I am currently digitizing a bunch of newly purchased discs. I plan on reaching out to Sound Choice for an audit before I start using all of the new material in my show. But my questions deals more with the process of backing up.

As a computer guy, I understand the importance of backups. I want to know what Sound Choice approves of regarding backups. I would like to create an exact duplicate of my production drive (the one I use for my show). I would also like to create an additional backup of all the content to another location on my home network so that I can easily produce another "show drive" in the event of a catastrophic failure of all other backups.

Can I do this?

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Please contact me directly at jharrington (at] harringtonlawpc (dot] com to discuss.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:51 am 
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:o you're in trouble now..... :lol:


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Chris,

I find this interesting. Are you also contacting every other brand you carry with this same question? Or maybe a better question would be why was this not an open question to all manufacturers? Oh wait, I can answer my own question - other manufacturers aren't threatening to sue you out of existence.


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Considering the breadth of what I plan on doing with my karaoke business, I have no problem reaching out to the manufacturers so I can understand what they want and so they can understand what I want to do.

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What about the other ones out of the music production business? You intend to contact them as well?


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I am reaching out to HarringtonLaw because he is willing to particpate in a discussion.

I have a CAP agreement with Stellar, and I am Chartbuster Certified. I am being pro-active in contacting Sound Choice.

Since I am a 1-1 Hoster I feel pretty comfortable with what I am doing. If the rest of the manufacturers come calling, I will deal with them as necessary.

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What don't you understand about 1-1 hosting? I'd say "1-1" should answer your question.......any questions?.... :lol:


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I mean no disrespect but I started this thread with a specific question for a specific person. I am not going to sidetrack it any further.

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This might sound like a silly question but are audits free :roll: I mean, if you bought from a manufacture, shouldn't they be thankful and provide the certificate for FREE :?: Folks, tell me you are not paying on top of your original purchased :oops:


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I don't understand two things...

(1) Why you're beating up the OP for respectfully asking the question; and

(2) Why Mr. Harrington can't respond to this in public, and instead chose to turn this into a private discussion.

Is there something the rest of us shouldn't know?

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Micky wrote:
This might sound like a silly question but are audits free :roll: I mean, if you bought from a manufacture, shouldn't they be thankful and provide the certificate for FREE :?: Folks, tell me you are not paying on top of your original purchased :oops:


and I agree with this!

and remember harrington law works for soundchoice so they are not in your favor they dictate what soundchoice wants... oh yeah - in accourdence to how they interpet the law in soundchoices favor....

not a single host that owns his originals and is 1:1 compliant has been prosecuted yet.

consult your own attorney's that specialize in copywrite laws. don't take the opinion of someone else's attorney! that's all i have to say.

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not a single host that owns his originals and is 1:1 compliant has been prosecuted yet.


Nor will they as long as they can prove themselves 1:1. The OP is talking about having a second backup.

As for the audit fee or fee for the PRIVLIGE to be able to go 1:1, the fee basically covers the cost of an audit. Now you can say no but it wil be done if you are sued and a Discovery will be made. Of course the cost (ie attorney's fee) will be more than the audit will be.

Micky, in Canada, a DJ can media shift their discs to computer as long as you pay the AVLA fee. Unfortunately, AVLA does not cover CD+G.

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mightywiz wrote:
Micky wrote:
This might sound like a silly question but are audits free :roll: I mean, if you bought from a manufacture, shouldn't they be thankful and provide the certificate for FREE :?: Folks, tell me you are not paying on top of your original purchased :oops:


and I agree with this!

and remember harrington law works for soundchoice so they are not in your favor they dictate what soundchoice wants... oh yeah - in accourdence to how they interpet the law in soundchoices favor....

not a single host that owns his originals and is 1:1 compliant has been prosecuted yet.

consult your own attorney's that specialize in copywrite laws. don't take the opinion of someone else's attorney! that's all i have to say.


I find it sad to know that KJ's have to spend thousands of $ on their cdg's from SC and to be legal still need to give them more money to have a legal certificate :!: If someone buy's the GEM collection, I hope they do get certified for FREE :roll:

I understand that Harrington has a job to do but I still think it's not a way to threat your loyal customers, you folks have spends thousands of $ and are fighting to stay in business because of all these pirates... and now, you need to pay the company that you've been encouraging :roll: Shouldn't they be thankful to you, with out you KJ's, they wouldn't be able to pay a Mr. Harrington...

I'm no KJ but if I were and my collection were 1:1 and all SC's, I would NEVER pay them, I would let them bring me to court and let the judge see how much they respect their loyal customers :!: :!:


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i just want to know why the answer is so top secret that it can not be given to all of us on this thread. good question, but secret answer?

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The reason I am not responding in the thread is that he is asking permission to do something, and that will need individual treatment.


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@Harrington - To be fair, my request is not something that is all that unusual. I would think that anyone that is interested in protecting their investment would want to backup at least once.

Let me expand on my original question -

Do I need permission from Sound Choice to backup my original discs to CD? (this would not be a media shift)

Do I need permission from Sound Choice to backup my original discs to a hard drive? (this would be a media shift for backup purposes only)

Once these questions are answered, we can come back to the question in my original post.

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chrisavis wrote:
Do I need permission from Sound Choice to backup my original discs to CD? (this would not be a media shift)


That is a media shift. And the answer is...maybe.

chrisavis wrote:
Do I need permission from Sound Choice to backup my original discs to a hard drive? (this would be a media shift for backup purposes only)


Also maybe.

These are not as simple questions as they seem. I will explain when I respond to your email. You may not have been asking permission but my answer could be taken as permission granted or denied.


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I thought your mp3+gs back up you cdgs & your cdgs back up your mp3+gs. If my hard drive crashes, then it's ripping time again. Am I wrong, and did anyone else think that was the case?.....thanks, Greg


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HarringtonLaw wrote:
chrisavis wrote:
Do I need permission from Sound Choice to backup my original discs to CD? (this would not be a media shift)


That is a media shift. And the answer is...maybe.


And media shifting permission has already been granted. Thank you for defining that even a CDR is a "media shift."

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Your evasive answer of "maybe" sounds like you're saying; "Maybe if you send in enough money."


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