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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:12 am |
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So I was on another forum, and noticed that a whining sleazebag was berating an alleged "pirate" who happened toraise $27,000.oo dollars for charity, while the whining sleazebag did nothing close.
In this particular instance, I would take the ALLEGED pirate's actions over the useless SC methodology supporting whining sleazebag in a heartbeat. Just my outlook...
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chrisavis
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:39 am |
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Lots of bad people do charitable things to mask the activities that put money in their own pockets.
Raising money for charity didn't cost that "pirate" anything. In fact, they may have gotten paid to host the charity event.
The charity event and its constituents may have benefitted from the charitable act of the hoster, but if the hoster is a pirate, then they are a pirate. It doesn't absolve them of the crime.
Chris
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leopard lizard
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:53 am |
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IF the person is a pirate, what about what they stole in order to put on that event? How many thousands of dollars worth of music were stolen in order to raise the money? Are you really saying it is okay for someone to steal from others in order to raise money for charity? What harm might these people have done to the manufacturers of the stolen product or the other legit operators in the area--IF they are truly pirate?
Why not answer this on the other forum in question? Maybe the mods should just bring back the banned people because people on here still are obscessed with arguing with them or commenting on what they do yet won't do it where those people would be able to answer back. And here we go again with saying you don't name call on forums yet--
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:17 pm |
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i do applaud gathering that much money for a charity, but that pirate stole $100,000 of music to get that $27,000.
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Lonman
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:42 pm |
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leopard lizard wrote: Maybe the mods should just bring back the banned people because people on here still are obscessed with arguing with them or commenting on what they do yet won't do it where those people would be able to answer back. -- I know huh? No point in banning people when others here keep bringing their (the banned) remarks/stances or other stuff up from other forums that they cannot rebutt here.
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SwingcatKurt
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:21 pm |
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And do you think the "Charity" (Is it an official registered non-profit of some kind) would say if they knew and understood that the funds had been raised via an illegal entity/venue/act?? Do you think that they would want their good name/reputation associated with such activities? Sounds like this guy hasn't done this charity any favors and maybe even introduced some liability to them.
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SwingcatKurt
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:26 pm |
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And do you think the "Charity" (Is it an official registered non-profit of some kind) would say if they knew and understood that the funds had been (alledgedly)raised via an illegal entity/venue/act?? Do you think that they would want their good name/reputation associated with such activities? Sounds like this guy hasn't done this charity any favors. Not to mention how any of the "donors" would react if they were aware or understood what they had now unwittingly become a part of(and who knows what organizations the donors were a part of).
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c. staley
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:08 am |
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leopard lizard wrote: Are you really saying it is okay for someone to steal from others in order to raise money for charity? It doesn't have to be for charity. Check the number of lawsuits and judgements against the manufacturers from the copyright owners.... that was "pirating" for commercial gain wasn't it? Not even a charitable cause.
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kjathena
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:38 pm |
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SwingcatKurt
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:46 pm |
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THANK YOU ATHENA!!
So who was the Charitable Organization anyway? May not have been a religious organization............could have been a childrens hospital(City of Hope, March of Dimes??), United Way, Animal's Rights, Special Olympics, Homeless Shelter, Food Bank...etc etc etc..............Im sure NONE of those type organizations would KNOWINGLY choose to accept funds raised from an illegal activity.
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SwingcatKurt
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:54 pm |
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And Im willing to bet it WASNT the "Sleazebag" who actually raised the money.....it was the organization that the people who donated the funds to via raffles or silent auctions or pledges. And OF COURSE the venue benefited from the food and achohol sales that THEY made and undoubtedly the KJ benefited from the wage HE was paid to perform. So again a bar and KJ benefiting from pirated karaoke music(Allegedly) regardless of it being under the guise of charitable event.
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earthling12357
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:09 pm |
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kjathena wrote: Still dont make it right....stollen money donated to charity is still stollen money Selling German bread at a charity event? That's outright criminal!
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Cueball
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:31 pm |
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kjathena wrote: Still dont make it right....stollen money donated to charity is still stollen money earthling12357 wrote: Selling German bread at a charity event? That's outright criminal! So that's what "Stollen" means... I was wondering
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Cueball
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:36 pm |
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SwingcatKurt wrote: And Im willing to bet it WASNT the "Sleazebag" who actually raised the money...... If you go back to the OP, you'll notice that the "Whining Sleazebag" is not the "alleged pirate."
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kjathena
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:54 pm |
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_________________ "Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain." Unknown "if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters." Lee McGuffey
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kjathena
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:01 pm |
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Sorry JoeC still take SC over the pirate that wont even reply to the lawsuit.............sure the charity would too if they knew the tracks she used were stolen....she isnt Robin Hood
_________________ "Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain." Unknown "if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters." Lee McGuffey
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Cueball
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:06 pm |
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kjathena wrote: Pirate was still using stolen tracks to raise the money ALLEGED Pirate. ALLEGED does NOT mean ACTUAL without proof. Joe's post did not state whether he knows this person to be a pirate or not. Go back and re-read the OP. Joe's comment only made it upsetting, when he made this comment: JoeChartreuse wrote: I would take the ALLEGED pirate's actions over the useless SC methodology supporting whining sleazebag in a heartbeat.
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SwingcatKurt
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:28 pm |
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My bad CUE! I was tired when I posted and got it backward! ----GOOD EYE!
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kjathena
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:30 am |
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With all due respect Cueball that "ALLEGED Pirate" that did not even bother to answer the lawsuit when filed.....In my opinion when an "ALLEGED Pirate" sticks buries their head in the sand and does not reply to legal documents served to them it is ALMOST as good as a confession. Cueball we have debated back and forth on this forum upon occasion , same as I have with JoeC...I may not agree with some of your opinions but I respect you and believe you have integrity, honor and the right to your opinions as well
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