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Stuck in the past? Try living in reality versus your being stuck in fantasy land.

It's no fantasy. We are all professionals here. What are you hiding that we don't already know about?

Just from personal experiences from my wife and I... We attend karaoke shows all over the world during the off season... and I want to make this clear to you guys that every kj has some kind of unauthorized products in their setups.

So again I must say as a professional to another, cut the (@$%&#!) bullshit and be honest about your business. We are not babies.

Bob Latshaw does what he does
Pep does what they do
who the (@$%&#!) cares!!!

business is business.

What did Sound Choice do to you? Answer honestly... because in 20+ years Sound Choice gave me opportunity.

I was one of the first to get my library audited and certified by both SC and Chartbuster. I quit buying Chartbuster tracks on disc when Compuhost first introduced the KJMedia Pro. I contacted Chartbuster while they were still in business and they told me that as long as I was using the KJMEDIA Pro that I no longer needed to renew my certification and that my certification would be considered an indefinite life span. So I have absolutely nothing to hide. Every song in my library is either backed up by disc or receipt. I refuse to use You Tube in a show, for home use in practicing songs for friend's shows that I don't have yet but intend to get. My latest is Jamey Johnson's In Color which I intend to sing for the first time tonight at a friend's show. I won't be able to sing it at mine until a refund gets put back on my card.

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If you are paying PEP for a HELP license you are committing outright contributory copyright infringement. They may have got the blessing from some of the publishers for this scam, but what they won't tell you is that the person who owns the copyrights for 90% of the RECORDINGS aka STINGRAY is NOT a participant.

All a help license does is imdemify you from being sued by PEP. If stingray wanted to nail your arse to the wall, you wouldn't have a prayer. Is it likely to happen? Probably not.

As for having something to hide. You couldn't be more wrong. When i was pirating discs, it wasn't a big secret, i was extremely open about it. But after i found out how piracy was affecting the industry, i did a complete 180. After that, I fought the good fight for TEN YEARS before i finally got too tired and basically gave up. Anyone who asked me, was more than welcome to match my books to my discs after my show, and i frequently tried to educate bar owners and patrons etc as to why they should buy their music and pay their licesning fees.. all on deaf ears.

If you want to stick your head in the sand, and ignore all the signs, that's your choice. Don't get me wrong, i would absolutely LOVE to be proven wrong.

I would happily eat a crow sandwich if PEP started producing. But history unfortunately tells me that in a year, nothing will have happened and then it will be what people told me four years ago "I told you so"

cheers

-James

I always react to your posts that are based on an opinion or a misconception that you have - especially when it comes to licensing. I corrected you and called you on it as I have done on another forum as well. I have not commented on your drive to solicit song requests for PEP on this forum because these guys have been around for YEARS. They have heard it all before and as they have pointed out, there are threads that cover song requests that you can easily copy from. Be sure to keep us all updated on the track lists scheduled for production and some kind of timetable...

Regarding your offer to buy the entire PT library for .50 a track is never going to happen. And SF is going to sell their complete library works to a proudly legal Canadian KJ like you? Last I checked a PRS license doesn't cover that territory. Interesting.

Hide? I have nothing to hide. I've told you before and I'll tell you the last time, I am not in the business! I am out of the business. I have nothing to win or lose other than making sure readers get the real picture. If PEP was the best thing since sliced bread I would say so. What people are pointing at are their opinions based on years of fact. You have quite a weird way of debating. If someone doesn't see things as you do, they have something to hide and they are thieves? That is quite childish.

As has been pointed out, if you are operating with the help program, you are as big of a pirate as anyone out there. Not only are you stealing from Stingray, you are also stealing from some of the original rights holders since they are not being compensated for an actual purchase either. Some maybe were compensated according to Pep (no proof provided, by the way, but that is what they said) to some degree, but not all.

I was paying Pep for the Help license because in this very small tourist town called Niagara Falls, thousands of singers like to visit my show with their own music on Burned CD's, USB drives, SD Cards and phones containing a ton of sound choice tracks on them because Many Americans and others from all over the world like that version. The Help license was in place for our companies protection.

I don't need to buy off you anymore for $0.50 cents a song, because I'm getting them from Amazon for $0.22 cents a song. But thanks for the offer.

I can not believe you refused my $5000.00 offer for your 9384 tracks.
On top of that you refuse to sell my the KSF karaoke player software.
Do you not want to do business with a proudly legal Canadian KJ like me?

At least Sound Choice has product they can sell me.

Sound Choice has no product. KSF has thousands of products.

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KSF offerings are very nice quality. No complaints there but I don't see KSF's stuff on the popularity chart?

What good is having thousands of products when they won't sell to me, it's pointless.

I host at one of the largest karaoke patio's in the world with more than 20,000 tourists walking by the display TV's everyday during the summer months, there are 14 other displays all over the patio promoting Karaoke manufacturers tracks as they get played, with an average of 250 singers requesting songs 12hrs/ daily 7 days a week.

The karaoke patio is known world wide and rated one of the best outdoor karaoke venues as listed on Tripadviser, Yelp and others.

That's huge promotion for karaoke companies to promote their songs.

I'm shocked and disappointed that KSF doesn't offer me their SOFTWARE for one and the TRACKS for another.

I'm only the kj who pushes play, but thousands of people see and hear the songs being played. KSF is missing out on this because I only play the versions of karaoke manufacturers who sell products to my company.

Many times a day I will get people come up to me asking what version that track is and where they can buy it. (FREE Promotion)

I'm sorry if others have had a bad experience with Sound Choice company. But They've provided me excellent service since the beginning till present, so I'm not giving up on them, I will continue to support them.

Lot's of TV displays.

Keep supporting them but understand that a lot of Karaoke Hosts on this site and elsewhere aren't holding their breath. If they do get around to production again, and that's a big if in a lot of the members here's minds, there will be those of us who may choose to take advantage of the newly produced products provided they offer it in a manner that fits their needs but there are those who won't be bothered with them for their own reasons.

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I know I've been gone from this forum for quite a while, but bloody hell!!! what happened since I've been gone.
Everyone always chatted about sound choice.
They were superstars back in 2000's on this forum.
I can't believe this forum lost support for them... it's a damn shame, because they did nothing but defend their throne against piracy.

Actually, much as I hate to admit it, the fact is all they have tried to do is try to recoup some of the money lost due to piracy and have done nothing to actually try and end it.

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That's not so DannyG2006, They left the KJ's alone and went after those making copies and also those selling them.

This was back in the Pentium 2 days when CDBurners and Recorders became very popular in the karaoke world.

It was when the 100GB hard drive's started coming into the market when KJ's got smart and decided on using laptops moving forward in the karaoke industry as "Technical Infringers" and even back in that period, kj's were left alone.

Again Sound Choice was more interested in those Copying and Selling.

It's not cheap to enforce. back in the day because kj's come and go.

Back in the day Sound Choice asked for your help, what did you guys do?

I'll tell you what 99% of us did. We took advantage of new technology because it was new and made it easier for us to simply rip disks to our hard drives and keep the disks at home.

It's normal because we are human. Remember when the MP3 first got introduced?
We did the same thing, we ripped our cd's onto the computer. It was the coolest technology ever.

And around 2010 they gave up on that and started suing any Karaoke Host who ran on a computer because just the sight of a computer was not enough to prove piracy. They got nowhere in trying to go after those who sold the drives or put out downloads. The biggest infringer back then is still the biggest infringer today.

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Bloody Hell!!! we have told you explicitly what has happened since you've been gone. You just refuse to accept that it is actually what is the current reality.
KSF isn't refusing to sell you tracks, they are refusing to sell you tracks at the price you are demanding. big difference.
you are refusing to buy.
never did SC claim to be "defending their throne against piracy".
they are not the upstanding citizens you remember them to be.

"KSF offerings are very nice quality. No complaints there but I don't see KSF's stuff on the popularity chart?"
of the chart you showed, SC is at the bottom. so why are you bothering when KV, DK, Zoom, are better brands anyway according to that?

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DannyG2006, are you speaking for yourself or are you sticking up for somebody?
Have you ever been sued by Sound Choice for being a "Technical Infringer" ?

we can be honest here.

Hey it is their choice to refuse on a Win, Win, Win situation for them. To each his own I guess. There are plenty more stores to shop at in this mall.

If it was my choice I would go for that deal and offer the same deal to 200,000 more Professional KJ's all over the world $5000 x 200,000 = 1 billion US$