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In your wildest, most erotic dreams, Chris.

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DJ Don

As long as you can save me the NuTech #24 with Crazy - Fight (Rob Halford)

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The cost of entry being as low as it is to become a "KJ" I would think the best option is just buy the GEM series and be done with it. At this point it sounds like you could use this as a marketing advantage as you become one of the 'blessed' ones! Then you too could wield the law suit sword against your pirate competitors!

Only works where the lawsuits are if it does.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

I guess you don't understand what you write, or ( more likely) are being intentionally misleading ( I beleve you prefer the term lying), but at this point in SC's rolling crusade not unexpected.

See Bird's first post, page 1, 8th pojnt in the questionnaire. No point in me continually cut and copying.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

just throwing this out there, if you want to get piracy under control...
LEAVE THE HOSTS OUT OF IT AND GO FOR THESE GUYS!!!!!
http://www.karaokeinfo.com/
Why you need The Computer-Karaoke Guide™
Setup is easy and you'll be downloading your favorite karaoke songs in just minutes.
What if you do want to buy a disc, but don't know which "version" (Sound Choice, Sunfly, etc.) is best? Now, you can download and decide for yourself!
You probably don't want to spend $15-30 for one disc that may have, at best, 2 good songs on it.
Over the years, new sites have appeared selling home-made songs and passing them off as "professional" recreations. Don't get sucked into that nonsense. You will have the knowledge and tools to download REAL karaoke songs.
Your time has value. Why spend days scouring the Internet only to wind up disappointed? Everything you need is here!

hosts are not the problem with piracy, everyone but SC knows that, the singers are. every one of us has more singers with more pirated songs than the hosts do. one host has pirated songs, but that host also has 20+ singers with pirated music. where is this pirated music coming from?.....these places..karaokeinfo.com
shut down one pirate....those 20+ singers still steal their music from the places left alone. kill one save 20. and all these legal hosts (like me) have countless singers offering to give thousands of songs for free that they got online.
so every pirate has a dozen or more pirate singers stealing music...
every legal host has a dozen or more pirate singers stealing music...
going after the venue is going to put SC back on the map?

explain that to me...it makes no sense.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

Paradigm - That site has been active for 12-13 years. I stumbled on it back in 2012 when looking for karaoke tracks as a singer. All they are doing is charging for a guide that walks through setting up access to one or more iRC sites. Which is ironic because access to those iRC sites is free.

Charging money to learn how to access a free site where they can steal karaoke music.

I am in the wrong business!

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-Chris

Paradigm has a point. Why isn't SC going after these IRC sites? Going after the host is like going after the heroin user/addict instead of the dealer.

Oh, wait. Is it because it's easier for SC to grab money from users than it is to go after the sources?

Legalities aside, all these 'singers' with tons of karaoke music have the potential to go into business. Why not at least attempt to cut off another source? Going after the guy in Arizona who was selling drives full of music was a valiant attempt, but it was only 1 source...

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DJ Don

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Legalities aside, all these 'singers' with tons of karaoke music have the potential to go into business. Why not at least attempt to cut off another source? Going after the guy in Arizona who was selling drives full of music was a valiant attempt, but it was only 1 source...[/quote]
this makes more sense to me as well.
the host buying and using counterfeit music is bad...
the one MAKING AND SELLING the counterfeit music is much worse.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

Wow, why didn't I just snap my fingers and make these IRC sites go away?

I wish I'd thought of that.

Except that they aren't. They are calling them out for displaying a logo from a pc - period. Then they sue, harass, and make waves. After that, and having tainted reputations, used others' time without compensating for it, maybe costing money for legal fees - after all that - THEN they may drop the suit when no evidence of any wrongdoing or piracy can be presented.

Jim, in case you haven't noticed, spin just isn't going to do it anymore. You folks have been publicly caught out on too many occasions. We KNOW.

As Kurt even stated some time ago, SC is not out to fight piracy, and never were. Please stop attempting to mislead folks into believing anything else.

Kurt stated that SC is simply out to recoup losses. I happen to be all for that, as long as the money is recouped from those who caused a lart of said losses ( in my opinion the rest of the osses were caused by gross mismanagement of which there are several glaring examples) .

If IP trolling is how you want to do it, at least stand up, own it, and work from there.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

I had a guy, this last Tuesday, who told me he could offer me thousands of Karaoke songs, and it's totally legal. I told him I don't swing that way. . He was asking for SC versions of Elvis, and I told him I don't have any. I told him I don't like the way SC treats KJs and refuse to buy any more of their music, but I also told him, that what I do have from them I play off the discs. That is when he told me he isn't a host and has everything from them, on a hard drive, and could give it to me to copy. I said No thanks.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

bull $hit, if he had stolen SC material, he was a host. singers don't steal SC material. if singers and not hosts were stealing SC content, they would still be producing profitably.

i have no issue with SC getting what they are owed from people who have not bought the discs for the tracks they own.if they have bought the tracks i do not think SC is owed anything else. but also if SC catches someone who has bought a drive or subscription service (the way most of them get their music) then i would be inclined to give them a break for the evidence against the one CREATING the counterfeit tracks and selling them.
for example, if i bought a fake Gucci bag on the street for my wife, using the SC methodology, i would be sued but not the guy making and selling the bags. Professional agencies (police, FBI, etc) would offer me a deal for evidence against the guy making and selling the bags. SC however does not do that. herein lies my issue.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

Not necessarily, singer have the same access to the illegal hard drive craigslist & ebay ads as anyone else. I know a few singers that do not host that said they bought drives off of those sites when they questioned me on why I don't have specific songs and not being able to get them because they are discontinued. But not being involved in karaoke outside of home use, most of them have no clue those are even illegal - even after I told people why I don't get those drives, they don't seem to care as far as I could tell.

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For some reason my post was yanked. I'd like Joe to answer my previous question as to exactly what nefarious thing(s) is SC doing or going to do with driver licence info?

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You can be strange but not a stranger

I think Paradigm forgot to use the "sarcasm" smiley as I am sure he was being sarcastic.
Weren't you Paradigm?

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Music speaks to the heart in ways words cannot express.

sarcasm does not translate well in text form.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

I did, and referred to your inability to understand my posts. I also did so while quoting you. If you had bothered to look and read ( which you rarely do, hence your lame replies - not just to me, but others. If you wish to debate intelligently, it behooves you to read and understand your adversary's viewpoint. Otherwise you come off like putz. Jim H. does. Chris does. Athena does. Lon does. Danny G. does. You don't, and continually look foolish. I may disagree with those folks, but they present their case with some background and maybe an informative point or two. An addition to the forum whether I agree with them or not. You are simply a drive-by looking to stir the pot.) you would see it on page four.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

I knew you were being sarcastic.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

Joe, I did read your reply and nothing in it other than your usual blather about SC and your opinion of its "ethics" and no real evidence of what they do with the info. They use the info the same way as any other company does.

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You can be strange but not a stranger