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I only take issue with your incorrect definition of a "troll", which is completely back-asswards.

• Posting crazy crap continuously is trolling.
  
• Responding to the person posting crazy crap isn't "trolling". It's calling said person out on his crazy crap.

Think of me more as your "Personal Myth/Legend/Lore/Tall Tale Debunker".

Not only a "no ", but no idea what you are talking about.

The mods run the forum and have every right to monitor and control content. I have no issue with that.

As for my question on whether others can mention SC outside of the legal forum, it was just that - a question. If only I am banned from mentioning SC in other sections, I may consider it wrong, but I would not consider it my place to point out if someone else does it. If ALL are banned from mentioning them in other than the legal forum I would then have the right to do so. That's why I wanted to know- and still do. Awaiting an answer so I know how to react in the future....

I also found it interesting because no other mfr.'s name was banned in other areas.

Either way, the mods have the last word. Hope that answers your question.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

You know what Bazza? Whatever the definition, you stand up and debate. I respect you even if you see me as a putz. Rum, of whom I used to think better, punked out. Not a matter of our disagreement, but simply because he refused to take responsibility for his position.

Hell, there was another forum full of like thinkers. They were unable to deal with the few dissidents that appeared. Despite my warnings regarding what would happen, they chased them off. That left a forum of homogeonus thinkers. No debates, nothing to talk about. Just a bunch of folks hanging around agreeing with each other. Of course the forum crapped out. Rum's forum.

You have always stood up ( and beat me to death ) - whether detrimental to me or not, I respect the courage of conviction. You have that. Rum does not, and given others' response to his post, his credibility suffered for it.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Amazing what you think you can gleemed from our banter back and forth and yet you still know no more than when you asked me the original question. I never answered your question. We can play this game all day long. I never said or implied yes or no unless you are content to continue to try to read between the lines when there is nothing between the lines. What you think you know, you don't and what you don't know, you just don't know. Nice try! Have a warm hearted evening.

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

Amazing what you think you can gleemed from our banter back and forth and yet you still know no more than when you asked me the original question. I never answered your question. We can play this game all day long. I never said or implied yes or no unless you are content to continue to try to read between the lines when there is nothing between the lines. What you think you know, you don't and what you don't know, you just don't know. Nice try! Have a warm hearted evening.

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

I have all the courage that you don't know of here and around this industry. I never punked out!!!!!. I just will not play your game because your position and opinions are not in play other than on this forum. At least I have taken a stand in public face to face with others. Where have you been???? Just hanging out here on this forum hiding behind a screen name. You are just sour because I won't share information with you since I know you would never crawl out from this forum and see what is really going on. Sad but true. If anyone punked, it was you. Are you too lazy to pick up a phone and give anyone a personal call to quench your thirst for the elusive answer you seek or maybe you are just happy and content to stay in your place here and try (not a great attempt at that) to beat down with your words another's position. Speaking of the other forum. Look inward to this one and there is a just handfull hanging out here with very little useable information to share and a whole lot of useless speculation. If you think any forum is the absolute, you are sadly mistaken. It has become a new form of entertainment. Again, you don't know me at all. Note: this conversation turned when you started taking personal shots at me all because I won't (and no I haven't regardless of what you think) answer your question with a yes or no answer. Here is the rub for you, I still know the answer and you don't. Your opinion of me or my position is of no relevance, never has been and never will be. Until next time America.....

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

It's not the "haters" speaking up, but the BS'er with no facts that is the problem in this discussion.

You know, people have a RIGHT to be skeptical about anything new that comes along. Every single year it seems something comes along where someone tries to start somehting that promises unity and change, and to fight for what is important to kjs, and blah blah blah.

And every single damn year, nothing ever comes of it. It may hobble along for a couple of months, before the people that started it completely give up, and stop answering your emails.

We have heard this crap a thousand times before... Now either put up, or shut up because frankly I am sick of trying to change something that no one who is in a position to change things gives a crap about

-James

I have no problem with skeptical but when people just lump potential progress even when it moves slow with failure they really need to back down and support growth or just sit back and not speculate with any facts. By me not giving up all the details has a purpose. Most assuradly misunderstood by thosse yet to beincluded in the loop. When the time is ready everyone will know all the facts/ truths. I agree that past history has delivered almost zero results and that is why we want to have a solid foundation before we launch. There is so much going on behind the scenes that everybody will be supprised in a good way.

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

and that means the question of who is involved is irrelevant why?

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

So rum there is really something going on at your forum, really? Last time I looked in I was nearly hit by a tumbleweed. You know USA Karaoke, that one. Yep just checked it now, no new posts for today again. I can see why no one is hiding over there. Just saying.

I never questioned your take on what is happening or not over there. And it mean what to you???? Again, you are putting way too much value to things that don't steer this industry including that "other" forum. Since when did we start keeping score? Look around and count the active members/visitors here and you will note that count is way down (most threads have less than a handfull that participate considering this forum has about a 7 or 8 head start on the "tumbleweed" forum. And most of the ones here that also go there have pretty much moved forward with their lives. Traffic count it down. (No disrespect ment to this forum, the mods and it owner). Everything goes thru cycles.

Have an awesome day and a productive weekend. I now have better thing to do like enjoy the company of my wife and dog and prep for a big weekend (2 karaoke events and 2 wedding receptions).

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

Gee rum I didn't mean to make you feel bad.

I feel left out because Rum didn't address my calling him a BS'er. I think he should try running for "office", because I think his yarn spinning skills makes him more than qualified. After all our badgering.... just give us something, yet he still refuses.... I don't get it. Maybe it is as I described. He is a good typist I'm trying to end on a good note.

I went last year. Since I never been it was interesting and I enjoyed the expo. I was a little disappointed with the karaoke party. Not many showed up. I think they were having problems with the sound. I was expecting a throw down party with at least refreshments. It was a little boring.

Karaoke has always the been the dysfunctional family member of the music industry. We can only hope that someday..................................................... of course with Rum's help.

SC never admitted their control of the bedroom run KIAA with PO box in a prestige office building in which they had no residence.

Rum won't answer yay or nay in regard to a new org. And SC's involvement.

Why? Because both Rum and SC KNOW that knowledge of their involvement would be perceived as an extreme negative. There is absolutely ZERO reason not to give a "nay " response if it were true.

The point is, how does one trust or give credibility to someone with something to hide? The answer is....you can't. To me, Rum is now off the radar. I wonder if Jim will step up? He has in the past.

Jim, is SC involved with the new organization as described by Rum?

Actually, I really want to know if ANY karaoke mfr. has a deciding interest, not just SC.

TO RUM: I am actually confident thet Jim will answer. Why? He may be involved with actions that I am vehemently against, but he will stand up and attempt to verbally beat me to a pulp.

You? Sorry, but I now see you as a simple toady.

I have been insulted, called every name in the book, and have had lies posted about me for years by those who disagree with my views here, and on other forums. Every one of those people who have tried to beat me down have more of my respect than you now garner. I have read your posts for years and always held you to a higher standard. My error.....

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Awwwww... Don't feel so bad mrmarog. After all, he didn't answer Rick's questions either.

And that's suppose to make me feel better!

They are obviously going to try to involve the two defunct manufacturers as they need the threat of lawsuits to influence the venues to hire them. There is information that can be gained from a kj who is running a good show but let's face it, it ain't rocket science. Certainly not information somebody would pay for. Personally, I can't get past all the typos and fractured grammar throughout their website.