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I really don't think most people on here are "haters" most of us are just honest people that know wrong from right. I also don't belive any of us support pirates. But it seems to me maybe SC was the one jumping to conclusions. I do understand the need to go after the pirates I just don't agree with the methods being used.

why can't you haters even consider that some caution should be taken before jumping to conclusions ?

some caution should be taken, i agree with you completely.
but it should not only be us who should take caution before jumping to conclusions. SC's investigators and SC themselves are not innocent here either. this is not one sided

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

@kuelman1 - There are 14522 Members on these forums. (no doubt a bunch of one timers, inactive folks, etc). Of those there are plenty who have and are pirating karaoke. I imagine there are a number of pirates who read the forums regularly if for no other reason than to keep tabs on what HarringtonLaw has to say.

These forums are a valuable resource for karaoke enthusiasts of all kinds....including the pirates.

-Chris

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Just for the record, I am the Real "Rodney" aka "awildnkrazykj" ..
True I have seen all kinds during my 21 years in the Karaoke business.
As far as Karaoke Forums, I first started posting way back on Karaoke.com's site, it was called "JOLT", I was one of the first in the beginning, in fact I started the "Jolt Neighborhood", where we all would have our own little neck of the woods..
I first started with JVC 800tn Machines, 6pack plus one players...(the best and only Commercial grade karaoke player), I still have 4 units.
I then went on to numerous players and have finally found one that has worked for over 5 years straight, which is "American Audio Dual Karaoke Player", it's cheap but very very effextive and realiable.
I like the fact that I can load up 2 cdgs at a time and I use the JVC 800 as a back up and for Super-Imposing features, allows for a camera or image to be overlayed in the background, totally cool effects...
I truly think that SC choice to hire APS was not a very good one but I can't tell them what to do or hire.
I think they came to one of the location where several of us do karaoke there several nights a night and saw my name on the billboard and assume it was me.
I think this for several reasons:
1) There were up to "Four" different kj's working there at various times and dates.
2) "Two" of these KJ's have first names very close to mine.
3) I obviously use CDG's, they are always dislayed at my tables and my helper , who happens to be a high ranking member of our local police dept who actually loads all the CDG's for me, while I emcee my gig.
4) They totally mis-spelled my name even though it's on my books !! and flyers and on the Marquee up front as well as Advertisements from this site's very own Karaokescene Magazine !!!!
( By the way "Peter Parker" knows me personally and has been to my shows and knows I run "CDG's" at all my shows, in fact I do the big Karaoke Fest Event at the LA County Fair every year for them, in public, out in the open, with all my cdg's in front of them....)!!!
5) The only contact that I got from APS was them calling me and thinking I was the other KJ's who worked there....BTW, one of the other KJ was found guilty and he paid his restitution with SC....
6) I got my official summons barely last week and it was dated on October 6th,2011 with a demand to file withing 21 days ....uuuhh, way past that date when I even got served, 12/15/11 at 12:35am in the morning !!!!
7) To further discredit these "Investigators", our local Classified, "CRAIGSLIST" had an ad asking for people with Digital Cameras to go to karaoke shows and take pictures for, I think it said $150.00 per night !!!!
Hmmm, how many "HOMICIDES" can be cleared up with that type of investigative credentials?
Sign me up, I could get paid big bucks to take pictures....
Can you at least see what I mean?
I applaud the efforts to rid this industry of "Pirates" have always done so...
But is this the way to do it??
I have been buying CDG's for all 21 years and even subscribed to monthly purchases from "Pop Hit's Monthly", I own the Foundations, the Bricks, the Spanish series, plus many others from SC, I even have LD,VCD, and Etc...even have Beta Tapes
(That's dating me way back)

This suit is about those who run shows with computers or whatever other formats other than CDG's....
I'm only "1 to None" compliant, I use CDG's...

I think what they should do is have an Investigator who has knowledge of how karaoke is run and know that just because the see the "word" of a specific Mfg doesn't mean it was media shifted.

To be honest, people come to my shows based on my Professionalism, my high standard of professional equipment used, my sound technical savy and of course my Personality.....I have yet top have ANYONE say they came to my show cause I specific discs, the only mention of discs, were that of me having "NON-Scratched" discs that I play...I take dam good care of my CDG's...
I can produce my purchases from Sing Young America/Singers Choice Karaoke/Karaoke.com/SoundChoice.com/Ace Karaoke/Laser D Karaoke/ Walmart...don't laugh, I can get spanish cdg's for $5.00......as well as buying the competition out too, equipment and CDG's....
These were all purchased with my company name.
What is most saddening from this is, I have to pay my lawyer this week in order for them to process my summons adequately....and he is a "Intellectual Lawyer", must be good from the price he's wanting me to pay?
Oh yeah just to let you all know, you can't sue for someone simply summonsing you to court, it's only after the cards are put on the table, one can pursue such cases...at least that's what he told me???...
I still would like to see about gettimg my hands on a full library after this all said in done, legally not by force....
Sincerely
The real
Rodney

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Karaoke is supposed to be fun, if it isn't, then it's NOT KARAOKE.......

Whatever. I think you are being obtuse.

I bet you won't ever get a chance to examine the evidence, so you simply won't know, will you?

As I said, you're less of a known quantity than Rodney is.

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Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

WOW Rodney!

So all you got was a phone call from APS? No letter of intent or anything?

If If If.

Personally, I feel that your comments about Rodney are extremely insulting and belittling.

I'm sorry KJAthena, but I have to say this... STAY OUT OF THIS!!!! . Your comments about Rodney are making you look extremely shallow!!!

Yes! I know Rodney personally. I met him 10 years ago on the week of 9/11, when I had flown out to California to actually meet him (and several other JOLTers from the West Coast). Rodney has been posting for years, and I would be willing to say that there is NO DOUBT in my mind that this poster is him. Rodney is one of the most sincere and passionate KJs that I know of.




And here you go again!!! Rodney has stated that he does not run his show on a Computer. He uses CDGs, and a CDG Player. Therefore, Rodney is not 1-1... He is just 1 PERIOD!




Sure. That's easy for you to say. Rodney now has no choice but to REACT. He had to hire a Lawyer, and it's costing him hundreds of dollars for nothing! I didn't see you post anything about having to hire a Lawyer when you were named. All you posted was that you contacted SC and CB, and they gave you an Audit via Skype, and that you had also traveled to South Carolina to have an Audit done in person.

I will reiterate... This is one time that you really should KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF.

It's nice that you can confirm that this is being looked into. The sad part is that it was not looked into before a lawsuit was filed!

Most companies at this point would not have to "look into" the issue after the fact since they would have been fairly certain of guilt before they filed. Unless they just filed on any KJ they wanted and investigated AFTER THE FACT! Then Your company and SC wonder why any of us would question what you are doing, why? Someone is lying here and the results of your investigation will tell who!

If this guy was running straight original discs then the only questions are:

1. Are the cds sold by Sound Choice for private use only? If so, why would a KJ buy these?

2. If not private use only then were there any commercial restrictions given upon purchase of these cds? If not restricted at sale then why would new restictions apply now and if restricted at sale where would I find these restrictions?

3. If licensed for private and commercial use why would a media shift of any format matter?

It would appear on the face of things that errors may have been made. Some may have been due to poor investigation and some as stated by Rodney, due to confusion (similar names and multiple hosts). Jim is doing the right thing by checking into it, and kudos to him.

As for investigations, I have no knowledge of who or how they are being done. I do know that investigations (criminal, insurance, civil, etc) are seldom perfect and errors can be made. We all know of well publicized criminal cases where the accused has been acquitted and the investigators were from well trained, well equipped departments.

I would love to review the actual notes and methods to see what exactly is going on.

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Be advised that the second Rodney hands one dime to his attorney, that it is improper for Harrington or slep or the attorney of record to contact Rodney directly. Harrington knows this. Let's see if he plays by the same rules he wants the rest of us to play by.

You and Athena just love making excuses for SC .

Cueball,

I guess you were not on the other forum during the time I found it and started to post. If you had been you would have seen the posts where I did in fact contact and pay a lawyer (oops theres that IF word again) yes it did cost me hundreds of dollars. YES I know you do not like that IF word

your copy and paste skills are a bit lacking Rodney was not the one referred to in the post where I advised it is better to act than to react and those that wish to read the tread will see that.

I traveled to North Carolina for the second audit to stop all the BS flying on the forum (again the one I found first) after "people" started saying the skype audit was being "given a pass" and so we could get out audit for CB at the same time

I will however do myself a favor and let others take control of this tread for now......my opinions will be held in reserve

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"if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters."
Lee McGuffey

Yikes...I apologize to everyone....I indeed think what is happening to me is wrong and yes I am being dealt a bad hand but for those who truly know me, know I really am a nice person who fights on the side of what is right but I do look at everything and listen to everyone, if not I'd strangle myself.......
My opinions don't matter as much as my actions do....I still thi nk there's time to have the right thing done before I have to shell out so much money especially since I don't have it...I do thank my supporters as well as my adversaries, if not, I learn nothing....
Time will tell...bless you all

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Rodney,
You have NOTHING to apologize to anyone for. After literally hundreds of these lawsuits, SC, their attorney's (including Harrington) and their investigators should now know the difference between a computer and a disc.

If your situation is any indication, it seems to them there is no difference. It appears that if they think they can make a dollar off you, they'll give it a shot. After all, with 1 filing fee of $350 divided by 37 defendants, they can sue you for nothing more than about $9.00 plus the cost to serve you.

Timberlea, Athena and other cheerleaders will make up any excuse they can to try to add some credibility to what SC is doing right down to chasing you down on facebook, then questioning your identity and now claiming there were nothing more than "errors made" in the so-called investigation. Which we all know you'd have to be as dumb as a rock to not see you playing discs at your gigs. And SC's other self-appointed lackey (insaneKJ) is now libeling you on the "truth forum" and anywhere else he can... simply because there was a suit filed against you.

Their true colors are now shining as "brightly as Athenas mystic blue candles."

For us, seeing this happening to you (and untold others) reinforces that our decision to drop this brand entirely -- to avoid being involved in any kind of legal action AND protecting our CLIENTS from any involvement in legal action -- was more than a wise one.

I (like you) have spent THOUSANDS of dollars on their material which is now gathering dust. And it now appears that even if I were to drag out a disc player, I would still be sued and so would my clubs.... because more "oopsies and errors" -- just like the ones Timberlea is attempting to explain away -- I'm fairly sure would be made.

You have nothing to apologize for and as far as SC is concerned, in my opinion, an apology from them could never be enough. They're actions have and continue to tarnish your reputation, and in this business, what else is there?

hopefully this will work, tried to add some but it rejected my format,,,this is a test,,,
This is my karaoke rig.
Mackie Mixer
American Audio dual karaoke cdg player
TC Helicon voice processor w/4 part harmonies effect board
Shure beta 87's and 58's cordless microphones
Line X cordless microphone
Sennheiser corded microphones
3-QSC powerlite series amplifiers
2-JBL SRX dual 18 sub cabinets
EAW 2 way line array speaker sets
JBL EON 18" POWERED speakers (monitors)
Much more toys and accessories....
Is there any questions about my professional equipment...?

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Karaoke is supposed to be fun, if it isn't, then it's NOT KARAOKE.......

heres my 6pack cartridges, holds 6 each 300 in this box alone

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Karaoke is supposed to be fun, if it isn't, then it's NOT KARAOKE.......

example of what's in my cartridges

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Karaoke is supposed to be fun, if it isn't, then it's NOT KARAOKE.......

example of some disc cases....each contains over 320 cdgs, 5 seperate cases...3 english 1 spanish 1 foundations and bricks........these are just examples...inquiring minds want to know.
Oh yeah as you can clearly see, all my cdg's are labeled and are sequenced in my books from DK001 to present...
BTW this was taken by my cell phone tonight at my gig...fyi...although some may discredit me.....
Timberlea i'msure you remember me from when you first started posting years ago, you were a newbie then, i already had alot of years on you by then......

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Karaoke is supposed to be fun, if it isn't, then it's NOT KARAOKE.......

And the list goes on......I'm sure anyone can see I use my CDG's well...

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Karaoke is supposed to be fun, if it isn't, then it's NOT KARAOKE.......

Boy this Insane kj dude thinks he's funny by going to my facebook page and pulling pics and posting them up on another site, not realizing that I'm a dj who uses Serato Scratch,industry norm and legal...BTW, Serato doesn't support karaoke...
I put up pics from my friends list so I can display them on screen for people see their faces as they walk up....but then again maybe that's too cool , I'll stop if it bothers anyone?
I guess I'm his lastest victim?......
BTW, what i know of Donna Thomas, she too is CDG based, has been buying cdg's at the same location I have for many years...might be a good idea to wait on her lawyers too before jumping into accusations too...she is a great person.....in fact there are several more KJ's listed of which they confess to be CDG based too, don't know them all but if they say they are, I would go with their word too unlss otherwise proven?

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Karaoke is supposed to be fun, if it isn't, then it's NOT KARAOKE.......