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Yeah, you're right.... sorry...

It's borne out of complete frustration.... I'll try to keep it in check...

I'm thinking $20 per disc and $75+ for out-of-print discs...which are many. 90% of the discs have only been out of the case to rip to the HD. 8125 will go for $300 alone.

These are ALL PRE SC Warning not to use on HD. So, advertising on EBAY this tidbit should make the discs more valuable.

Mine are collector items...as they are NO LONGER made without the WARNING to NOT use on a HD.

Heck, even a new SC disc, with the NEW WARNING to NOT use on a HD, which, I might add, I would NEVER use and don't recommend anyone else use, is selling for $17.95. So, I don't know where you get $6/disc...LMFAO.

Because I just bought the Sound Choice Bricks 1-5 and Foundations 1-2, brand new, shrink wrapped, with the factory seal on them all for $600 which is exactly $6/disc and officially the most I have paid for any discs.

I paid a grand total of $4 for the two 8125's I have.

That said, I do understand the collectable nature of some discs. But I am not a collector. No way I am paying that much for a disc that gets used very, very rarely.

This is how I buy discs --



The picture is from someone who responded to a Craigslist ad I posted. My guess is that most, if not all of these are burned copies judging from the uniform white coloring down the rows. They are supposed to get back to me with a count of original vs burns next week.

-Chris

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You'll probably get the $20/disc, but good luck with that $75/disc on the OOP ones (with the exception of 8125 (which, for some strange reason, people still seem to be looking for, and are willing to pay that much for it)).

Last year I found a site doing closeouts on discontinued/backstock on SC (and other brands) for $4 each. I picked up over 150 original discs unopened (mostly SC) for $4 each. The deals are out there, just have to do some searching for them.

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I wonder if that guy in the photo was one on the entities listed on a lawsuit....or just saw the writing on the wall and decided to fold his tent.

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Actually, the photo I posted is of a collection that was in an abandoned storage unit. The seller owns the facility and is selling off the contents.

They are doing a full disc count and sending me some pics of the discs this weekend.

-Chris

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Yeah, looks like a work copy used by a DJ/KJ for active shows so that their originals are not exposed to wear or theft! But hey maybe a few originals that just never got copied. I suggest you just wait for the real legal KJs to just sell off their SC like three here in Texas that posted at their shows we do not play Sound Choice products!

Touche' No Way In Hell Can I bring my discs to the Bars anymore! I have not been able to do that for 5 years now. Certified? No. Going to anytime soon? No. I have a life, I am too busy to worry about being legal when I am legal already. I will take one day at a time. (see my attached photo!) The Discs in sleeves are what I used while I used my disc players, then built my computer 5 years ago and never stopped buying discs. The 2 back rows of Cases on the right is ALL Sound Choice discs, the long row on the left is ALL Pop Hits monthly NOT including what is in the second big case in the front, the 2 boxes in middle are all Pocket songs-Just Tracks, and tons of misc brands all over the floor, Legends, Panarama THP's going back to 1996, Music maestro, you name it ...

I have nothing to hide and they know where to find me. Till then, I have things to do.

I can hope that my several conversations with Tom at Sound Choice over the years will carry some weight, but I won't count on it. Tom has told me personally that only 6 years ago, they had 100+ employees, Today, less than 10... because of Pirating. I can understand His bitterness and understand wanting to compensate...but at this point .. as it was said earlier, It's all about the money now.

Rick in Tulsa

Yeah, I've heard this story too. Though I believe that it is partially true, I think that the main reasons include paying off lawsuits related to producing tracks ( and adding the SC logo) without permission, and from what I understand, suits regarding the use of MediaCloq, plus- unlike say, Stellar, for instance, the EXTREMELY slow output of new tracks.

Yes, I agree that track thieves ( REAL pirates, not media shifters) may certainly have had a hand in it too, but other companies still put out new tracks, and SC doesn't.

I think it's more a management style problem- but that is merely my own opinion.

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Second That... I am looking for many OOP SC discs. I gotta say I that I have decent luck using Amazon.com for OOP cdgs, I found SC8791 on there just today and bought it, they are usually used, but since I also refurbish discs as a side business, it is not typically an issue for me. I have 2 Fix-a-Disc Machines from Compact disc repairman and 1 Azuradisc machine to repair my discs. I have been repairing all my own discs for 9 years now.

Rick In Tulsa

Rick in Tulsa
Thats impresive....might be close to giving my hubby a run for the "disc whore" title....

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Nice!
BOY OH BOY do I need to put this into practice more often...

Apparently the moderators did not like my response to the comment made to Athena about me, they did not post my response and took his down as well. Good enough for me.
I suppose I should not have been so...umm, forthright, or truthfull, ppl tend to not like the truth. I apologize to the mods.

So in kind I simply edited my post and added a picture of ME in my Garage to prove it really is me in my garage .. the things we have to do. Not that it is gonna change anything.

I understand that simply joining this forum will probably send the authorities my way sooner or later...that kind of goes without saying. In this Country, one is always considered Guilty until proven innocent.

Using a computer is not the reason this would happen. Certification would have to happen even if I lugged all 3000+ discs to my shows and used a cdg player There would be someone , somewhere that would accuse me of having burned discs if nothing else even if they had never been to one single show of mine. That is just how the world works now. "They" want you to be as miserable as "They" are.

Between some registered users here being in those points of authority and those that actually like to stir the pot, it will happen eventually. I am okay with that. If you want my address..just ask. As I said, I have nothing to hide and I have every receipt for every disc I have ever bought.

OK...............TO GET BACK ON ORIGINAL TOPIC.............
SC KARAOKE LAWSUITS IN OREGON.............................

Here ya go:
http://www.nwkaraokeguide.net/

Lead-in article is SC PRESS RELEASE.
Following story is mine(edited by Tye my Editor).

Gives a pretty complete breakdown of where they are with it.

Also in Email from Kurt Slep today, they are set to begin filing the SECOND WAVE of Oregon lawsuits, with 50 entities being listed along with ALL of the venues/locations that they're shows are performed at(many of these were left off the first listing).

More to follow as it unfolds.

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Just arrange to do an audit over SKYPE video conference directly from your Garage!

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"You know that I sing the Blues and I do not suffer fools. When I'm on that silver mic, it's gonna cut ya, just like a knife"-The SWINGCAT

Wow SwingCatKurt - you really wrote "Furthermore, the venues here are acutely aware that if they want to offer karaoke, they MUST hire a certified host, or be held in contempt."

That is just not true at all, why would you publish misleading information like that?

Venues can hire anyone they choose and if the karaoke vendor doesn't have Sound Choice tracks they face no problems at all.

Part of the quote from Kurt Slep. But with the summon's and lawsuit docket filings along with advance notifications through mailings etc, they are very much aware of the ramifications. By the actual time of this article's publishing, all this was actually old news to the venues involved. But keep in mind this is in context of Soundchoice. So yes if someone only had Sweet Georgia Brown discs they would be fine. But bear in mind that venues are now VERY SENSITIVE as to weather they have originals and are "LEGAL".

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Swingcat's article also mentioned Chartbuster.

Correct on Chartbuster but they are not required either. To say that having the fact that you have original discs verified by two manufacturers makes you worthy of being employed also does a disservice to other working KJs who may choose not to carry those brands. A KJ can run a perfectly legitimate and legal business without offering either of those brands and that needs to be recognized. I understand and agree that piracy is a problem in the industry but to tell venues not to hire a KJ because they haven't been blessed by those two companies is just wrong..