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They'd complain that it wasn't $20,000.

At this point, the new launch isn't going to be ready by tomorrow. We're still waiting on our vendor, and as everyone who's dealt with web designers and programmers knows, deadlines are almost always treated as soft. I've previewed the new site so far, and it's looking great--the vendor's just working out some bugs in the build-out.

And it's not just a new site--when it launches, there will be a radical change in the way SC does business. In particular, there's a new product/program that we think a lot of KJs are going to like, and it's worth a lot more than $10,000 (but costs a lot less). I can't say more, except to say that HELP is on the way.

I've done a lot of software\solution designs and launches. One thing I learned was double the time required, multiply that time 1.5 and add a month when you think it will be ready for an announcement.

I wouldn't sweat it, James.. Those that have been through this kind of thing understand.

Actually had that happen.

As an open source author, I received allocations in both the Red Hat and VA Research IPOs. The way they contacted me was to find my README, get the email address from it, and send me the invitation.

I availed myself to both, and I will tell you -- it was a lot more than $10,000. Now I know, of course, that stock IPOs are not guaranteed to be a winner. But in the go-go dotcom boom times, it was as close to a sure thing as I am ever likely to see in this world.

Yet both Red Hat and VA Research were heaviliy criticised for "spamming". Anyone who took the IPO and sold 1 day later made a bundle. Both companies felt that the software authors who wrote the software they exploited should share in their prospects for success. The email address in my README actually *invited* comments, kudos, and even complaints. Yet I was told that I should despise them for spam.

So yes, I can believe this.

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I can appreciate any company having issues with roll outs, and even certain assumptions that delays are inevitable; it is a different issue when terminology concerning dates is specific and doesn't allow for these inevitabilities...

I understand that the functionality of a new program isn't reality until it is functional, but what reasoning is there for delaying discussing basic details? The only thing I could come up with is delaying competition a few days from knowing what the new direction is, which I guess would have SOME benefit.

One thing some readers might wonder: Is this new direction have any correlation with the publisher filings and grievances discussed here over the pass few months?

No, it has nothing to do with publishers.

We're holding the announcement until everything is ready, because we want to make certain to capture the interest in the new program when it becomes public.

I feel as though further clarification may be warranted, due to the verbiage used here as well...sorry...

If the answer to the question had simply been "No.", then the interpretation of the response would be virtually limited to a single outcome. Adding a qualifier, in this case, "it [being the new direction] has nothing to do with publishers.", taken verbatim, might not give a reader a good sense or feeling about what is going on, since, from what I have been able to gather, there would be no legitimate karaoke vendor without the involvement of the publishers. It seems that this concept is further scrutinized by the numerous mentions of media shifting and the need to have publishers' blessing concerning the delivery medium. Certainly, any increase in use of material, through whatever medium, would require further involvement of the publishers to be legitimate, meaning it would have SOMETHING to do wish publishers...

coming out with program that locks there songs to it ya think

I agree that the sale or distribution of material embodying copyrights owned by publishers would require the publishers' involvement.

And I hope that will be a product that someone like me and Joe Chartreuse can use.... you know... us DB KJ's.

PS: I don't care what any of the other members here have to say about Discs being a dead technology. I still use them, so it's not dead to me.

Someday (hopefully within my lifetime) the last gasoline powered motor vehicle will roll off the production line. Doesn't mean that gasoline powered vehicles will disappear overnight as I am sure that oil companies and enthusiasts will continue producing gasoline for a while after that point. But the practicality of using a gasoline powered vehicle will be drastically diminished and eventually it will become impossible to find fuel (or you have to convert to electric/solar/nuclear/whatever it is.......can you say fuel shift?).

Karaoke on disc will be a viable means of doing shows for many, many years to come.....so long as you and your customers are happy singing only older music - *OR* - you don't mind burning discs to convert music from digital download to disc and incur the higher cost and labor of doing so.

But here is the big question - Cue.....how many discs - that contain recently released music - do you buy a year?

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If you only use original discs, you won't need this product at all. But if you wanted to get away from discs, you might find this product useful.

Since you are hinting.....

Will it allow me to get rid of the (SC) discs I have to keep around now to maintain 1:1?

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Sounds like possibly a streaming service in which I'd pass. Our internet is very spotty at best, last night I couldn't even access. But if they did something like the Cloud where you can stream but have the buy per track option (downloads) I'd be all over that!

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I am now in a position where expanding operations bumps up against availability of OLDER music content. I can grab all the Chartbuster and even good amounts of Pop Hits Monthly content. But Sound Choice content is out of reach these days due to limited quantity and drastically reduced number of bulk buy options.

I am anxious to hear what the announcement is.

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still think its a dj/karaoke program that locks their content to it
and if you want there content you have to buy their program just a guess

Doubtful. Software like that isn't cheap to produce or maintain AND it can be cracked and pirated like everything else.

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Well, if you are talking about releasing new music in some other format, unlike Joe C., I am willing to convert your product to a burned disc (if that is going to be possible). I have already purchased MP3/4-G files from sources like SBI and Digitrax (in the past) and have converted them to BIN Files (where I could burn them to a disc).

If it is a streaming / download option it just means that Kurt and Derek reversed the original corporate shuffle, though it may be a bit late.

Then again, if it's a CB - type locked system, that wouldn't be the case.

Also, Jim agreed that any new music production would have to include publishers, he never said that the publishers had anything to do with the announcement.

This would lead me to believe that new tracks are not involved, and maybe no tracks are. Could be simply a new device or delivery system. They used to have their name attached to things like that.

Best to wait and see if anything is forthcoming from Jim.

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The question I presented did not even hint at publishers having anything to do with the announcement. It was regarding publishers being involved in the "new direction" in light of the litigation that has been discussed here in the last year or so. When the question was answered with a NO, an addendum to the NO was included that seemed to attempt to change the scope of the question.

It just seems logical that if there were to be any use of material beyond the scope of the original agreements, that the publishers would HAVE to be involved, if the preponderance of information I have gleaned from these forums is accurate.

Also, if everyone did what was "best" concerning subjects like this, then a large portion of the discussion in most forums would have to be removed...

Hey, just because I said it would be best to wait and see doesn't mean we should DO that. More fun to speculate!

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