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I asked the question - which required a simple yes or no answer - because other supposed karaoke orgs such as the KIAA were simply SC agenda pushers with no goals set for the industry itself - with the result of mass ship - jumping. Since you are an honest guy ( yes, I DO know that to be true), and yet refused to give that simple "no " answer, I now have - which I didn't before - the strong feeling that SC is once again involved and agenda pushing. Unless you post otherwise, then I have to believe that we have another worthless "association" to talk about and then ignore.

That being said, I offer another simple yay or nay opportunity. Is SC involved in the new organization?

Refusal to answer IS an answer....

I would think that the anti-SC contingent would want to show up in force and in a very organized, intelligent, reasonable conversation, say what you say here. A show of force may be all that is necessary to tip him over....to make him realize that what he is doing is fruitless. You may convince him to throw in the towel. Another, and arguably the best overall karaoke content producer in karaoke history, is no more. That's what you want....right?

If not, then tell him exactly what you think he should do instead. Maybe he will listen. Maybe not.

Do nothing....nothing changes.

Your response is exactly as I suspected. Somehow you just can't see into the future (having vision) beyond SC and think of what we as host can possibly do for our industry and not what our industry can do for us. Come to Vegas and meet with some of your brotherhood and sisterhood to get really what is going on.

As was yours. Kind of hard to put my trust in someone who is too uncomfortable in answering a single, easy, yes or no question. I am extremely confortable with my answer Yes, you know my position on SC, but in reality that position would stand in regard to ANY producer having a lot of control over an organization allegedly formed for the Karaoke Hosting industry. My preference would be "By hosts for hosts". That being said, your fear I do not fearof a yes no reply indicates that you would be uncomfortable with people learning the answer from you. One would have to ask oneself why.

You understand why that worries me, considering that with effort, the answer can be confirmed elsewhere. Great, then perhaps you could contact the national office of NKA once it is up an offically running

It looks to me like you might lack the courage of your convictionsI have no lack of courage. I suggest that you might lack the courage to go to vegas and do a face to face with those you have issue with. Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary....

Rum, you should know that, because the information is available elsewhere should I choose to seek it, the content of your answer was not my priority. I was much more interested in IF you would answer.....So go eleswhere and get that information you are looking for. I just think I got the best of you by not playing your game

You are worried about a negative response from people like myself.Regardless of you response to any answer (were I to give you one)worries me not.

I felt that if SC had any juice, and folks like yourself had the courage you would stand up.Stand up! That is all I have done for this industry and never backed down to any responses. Even when I was alone with an opinion.

Instead, per your response, we are discussng a behind-the-back, keep-it - on - the - down -low thing...
Unless, of course, you wish to answer in the negative. There you go making an assumption.

Don't know if that is the best message that can be sent......The message I am sending to you is a response to you asking me to answer HONESTLY and nothing more.

With good reason. There was no logical reason not to post a "no " answer. My reason is you don't think I am honest. That left a "yes". Integrity would demand that you post that, but you didn't.

That aside, I will add more. The only reason that a "yes " answer would have been avoided is that you feared an extreme negative impact in regard to knowledge of SC's involvement.
Here's the funny part. While people like myself may not like it, even I am not sure of how extreme that negative impact would be.

Apparently you have an even stronger belief in that impact than I do......

Else why would you care about myself and those others here who might be in agreement.

Integrity not only requires honesty, but the strength to stand up for one's beliefs.

SO, would you like to answer the original question, or would you prefer that someone else take that responsibility for you?

Good Lord...
come check out this new organization which will help get this industry under control and help us all grow and make more money...but you can't know who is involved.
the lack of answer is very insane or lone ranger, I don't see why telling us if SC, DTE and others are involved is such a ridiculous thing to do.
Sc involvement won't make it break wether or not I get involved, but political spin talking will break it for sure. if who is involved...something that every person signing up should know...is hidden, then what else will be hidden?

Come to Vegas and find out!!!

I just published a bunch of karaoke music. I promise you it is awesome.

What Tracks? How many do I get? Will you be producing regularly?

Buy it and I will tell you!

We're not worthy...

Ya, sure spend precious dollars and even more precious "time off from work" on a trip to hear/see a presentation that we have no idea about who is giving it Rum, I think you need to stop drinking the cool aid.

We're not worthy...

I just published a bunch of karaoke music. I promise you it is awesome.

What Tracks? How many do I get? Will you be producing regularly?

Buy it and I will tell you!

See you have already assumed the answer is yes, so I will let you move forward with that assumption.

I don't fear giving you an answer, I just now choose to give you one. At this point (regardless of what you say further) has convinced me that if I told you no, you wouldn't believe me and if I told you yes, you would proceed to tell me how any involvement with the manus is the wrong way to proceed. So, you will just have to wait and see (and twist a bit more). BTW, anyone that REALLY knows me will tell you I am a stand-up guy with tons of integrity. What you think of me (being as you have never ever met me in person) is not relevant to me. I do however care a great deal for this industry and the direction it moves forward in. If you havent figured out I am not going to answer by now, let me make it very plain to you. I will not be giving you a yes or no answer on this thread. Come to Vegas and I will give you the answer in person.

No don't you think that is a bit over the top. I have asked no one to spend a dime on the NKA. I have however challenged members of this forum to step away fron the computer screen and actually engage face to face with others in the industry to get a very real perspective of what is really going on in this industry, with and without the manus involvement. My refusal to answer a question prefaced with the stipulation that I be "honest" was not really a question to find fact but a question intent on finding some kind of fault. As if I were to lie, really?

Interesting. No knock on the mods, just......interesting. wonder if others can....