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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:55 am 
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Bazza wrote:
There is a logical fallacy at work here.

Just because a person or business does something legally, that later becomes illegal, it doesnt mean laws were "skirted" or something sinister or sneaky was going on.

Coca-Cola used to contain Cocaine. It was legal. Then it wasn't legal. Coke wasn't "skirting the law" or somehow being sneaky & underhanded. The laws simply changed, and they changed.

The speed limit recently changed on a road near my house. I guess everyone who went 50mph for years were "skirting the law" and somehow getting away with illegal activities prior to the change to 40mph?


Actually coke WAS being sneaky and underhanded because they knew that cocaine was addictive. By the same token, just because something is legal doesn't make it morally right. Hell if the music producers had to base all of their business decisions on what was morally right, they would have gone bankrupt back in the 50's. :lol:

As for Joe' comments, I may not agree with everything he says on this, but I have to agree with the selling the rights to the soundchoice catalog. A smart business person would have set aside money while they were making a profit, to set up shop in the uk for digital distribution where the laws are more reasonable. Before the import laws changed, they would have had absolutely no problem selling to the US and Canada, and after the laws changed, they could still be selling to the rest of the world just fine. And since single sales are still fine to import, a person has tons of ways to get around a site that is blocked in their country, so they still could have gotten sales from the US and Canada anyway.

Why would you want to limit your customer base to just one region if you have the opportunity to sell worldwide?


In my opinion, the whole Donna Boris fiasco was just bad luck, it could have happened to any business entity.

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jclaydon wrote:
Actually coke WAS being sneaky and underhanded because they knew that cocaine was addictive.


Did they? Maybe, maybe not. Hindsight is 20/20. But regardless, it was legal.

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A smart business person would have set aside money while they were making a profit, to set up shop in the uk for digital distribution where the laws are more reasonable. Before the import laws changed, they would have had absolutely no problem selling to the US and Canada, and after the laws changed, they could still be selling to the rest of the world just fine. And since single sales are still fine to import, a person has tons of ways to get around a site that is blocked in their country, so they still could have gotten sales from the US and Canada anyway.


It's always easy to monday morning quarterback a business someone has run for decades. I am sure Kurt himself looks back and says "I probably should have done this or that". Who among us hasn't? But to say a guy who built a multi-million dollar business from scratch is a "bad businessman" or somehow isn't a "smart person" is just silly and/or sour grapes. Mistakes were made, no doubt. If we all had a crystal ball we would all have perfect businesses and be swimming in cash.


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Bazza wrote:
jclaydon wrote:
Actually coke WAS being sneaky and underhanded because they knew that cocaine was addictive.


Did they? Maybe, maybe not. Hindsight is 20/20. But regardless, it was legal.
Yep it was even available over the counter up until 1903 when government stepped in and forced it to be prescription only. No one really paid attention (some were just starting to catch on) to the side affects & addicting nature until the early 1900's. Coke was using it just like they use caffeine today - which subsequently took over once cocaine was banned.

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Bazza wrote:
jclaydon wrote:
Actually coke WAS being sneaky and underhanded because they knew that cocaine was addictive.


Did they? Maybe, maybe not. Hindsight is 20/20. But regardless, it was legal.

jclaydon wrote:
A smart business person would have set aside money while they were making a profit, to set up shop in the uk for digital distribution where the laws are more reasonable. Before the import laws changed, they would have had absolutely no problem selling to the US and Canada, and after the laws changed, they could still be selling to the rest of the world just fine. And since single sales are still fine to import, a person has tons of ways to get around a site that is blocked in their country, so they still could have gotten sales from the US and Canada anyway.


It's always easy to monday morning quarterback a business someone has run for decades. I am sure Kurt himself looks back and says "I probably should have done this or that". Who among us hasn't? But to say a guy who built a multi-million dollar business from scratch is a "bad businessman" or somehow isn't a "smart person" is just silly and/or sour grapes. Mistakes were made, no doubt. If we all had a crystal ball we would all have perfect businesses and be swimming in cash.


I would buy this arguement if it hadn't been for the fact that Soundchoice was ALREADY licensing its discs thru the UK and then importing them back to the states for re-sale. So they obviously knew that the licensing laws were more favourible to them.

I will agree however, that I should have phrased my previous sentences more carefully. What i meant to convey is said I believe that selling your primary asset, the lifeblood of your company, is a bad business decision, that has nothing to do with a persons skill set or lack thereof. Plus, it is only an opinion, and I am entitled to it, just as you are entitled to yours.

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