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Oh come on Jim some of the facts you have presented have not been true and accurate and were later corrected? Some facts are quite plain if a person takes the time to dig a little. When I did present a fact, called CAVS and obtained information right from the horse's mouth no one bothered to check it out even though I posted the number they could call. CAVS described what SC's has been engaged in as legal racketeering. That you are selling protection for a product where you don't even technically own the underlying material. That is why you have to go the civil court route and anytime the host has fought back things have not turned out in your favor. If it turns out that you loose your case against EMI or are forced to settle does that mean SC is guilty of piracy itself, or is it just another dispute between two companies, and one is forced to pay the other? I don't think it is too much to hold you to the same standard that you have tried to impose on others.

Let's try this one more time Bazza. I don't condone stealing, I did not say it wasn't stealing. What I said was the victim isn't treating it as stealing in a legal criminal sense. They are the injured party not me or you, they have to determine how they want to obtain justice through our legal system. They have decided to go the civil court route. Jim will even tell you this is a different solution as opposed to the criminal court route. The burden of proof is placed on the defendant and the bar is lowered in favor of the plaintiff. Even in this more favorable situation SC has had a tough time winning it's cases, unless the defendant just caved and settled. If they do cave and settle other hosts assume they were guilty. If EMI and SC settle out of court does that mean SC was guilty?

No it's not. In the EULA you will find personal use only. That's for the software itself not their songs.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

What law enforcement agency is enforcing the use of Karafun in public venues?

I have spoken to them. If you supply your own songs you CAN use the software in public. You just can't use it with their store of songs, but you can use it with the songs that you have on your computer. I had been doing that for a while, but between having to use Explorer to find the songs, and the fact that you couldn't create a rotation, it just wasn't worth the bother.

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Very good question.

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BMI, ASCAP, and SOCAN who operate by consent decree from the Department of Justice. They don't just enforce, they also endorse (when paid).

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Karafun has changed from it's original form to a kj friendly format that allows you to search in Karafun and also allows you to assign Singer's names to songs in the que but it's closer to RoxBox in function. Still prefer the selection of songs available for either streaming or download of JustKaraoke over Karafun.

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I have not heard of a single instance of enforcement.

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Nor will you. Nobody gives a crap about Karafun.

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The Cheer Leaders would like everyone to think that there is a Karaoke Kop hiding in every corner, just waiting to pounce on every karaoke enthusiast who has downloaded a few songs. The reality is that no one but the Cheer Leaders and Sound Choice gives a crap about karaoke downloaders and hard drive dealers and or buyers. They just think that by keeping the fear alive that some people will be afraid to take the easy way into the karaoke business. A level playing field in the karaoke business is nothing but a pipe dream in today's world.

The Cheerleaders want people to do the right thing. Period. People like Bruce wish to fault the Cheerleaders because they call him out for what he does.

There is nothing wrong with wishing for something that can never be, nor is there any reason why we should not try to make it so. People like Bruce don't like the light that the Cheerleaders shine on him for fear that maybe, just maybe, things will change someday.

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You might want to check the batteries in that little flashlight of yours Chris. It doesn't seem to be working all that well. The only thing that has had any light shone on it is Sound Choice's inability to police the karaoke industry to it's satisfaction.


and there is nothing wrong with fighting a losing battle, if you don't mind losing.

All of which has nothing to do with you being a pathetic thief. JUST STOP STEALING. Show a little respect for your family and yourself. Don't you have even a single speck of pride in yourself?

Your seething anger towards SC and the way they choose to do business has nothing to do with the fact that you gleefully take things that don't belong to you. Didn't your mother ever teach you that "two wrongs don't make a right"?



Exactly.

No!No! No! No!


I love you guys. Karaoke hosts that cheat on their spouses are everywhere and no one is on a crusade about that....but don't cheat Millionaire Kurt Slep out of a few dollars.

Of all the justifications I have ever heard for stealing, this is by far the worst.

First of all, Kurt isn't a millionaire. Not by a long shot.

Second, even if he were, stealing is stealing.

and driving 56 in a 55 zone is breaking the law too, but everybody does it and nobody gets busted for it. Marco Island is a Low Income Housing Project now? Poor poor Kurt!

Does that go for SC as well Jim if they should loose the EMI case or settle stealing is stealing? If you want others to view it as theft it should be tried in criminal court not civil, other wise it is just two companies suing each other, which really isn't a crime is it? It's just what happens when their is a dispute and criminal activity doesn't enter into the picture.

Just another example of the old "DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO" corporate mentality.