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There are people disagreeing on that forum. It is just that the info is not buried in private forums, thus enabling it to be found by search engines. The forums that have advertising have to be more careful in what they allow.

When I looked, that forum's only Admin was someone whose position in regard to SC was, without question, the most vocally adversarial to mine, and there were no other moderators. I have a feeling that I would be banned for saying "hi", and have the feeling that "dissenters" may not be exposed to a "moderate" moderator.

This is only my personal opinion, and others may certainly find it more welcoming than I.

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Ask rumbolt, he's the admin.

For claification, I am the Admin of a forum but it is not The former OKJT or anything. related to it or the "General Forum"

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It's the one where InsaneKJ has posted that he plans on PMing everyone here to try and get them to join.

I say let him PM away even though that may be against KS rules. When it falls on its posterior, as I think an "All Piracy, all the time!" forum must, you will know it is for a reason.

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Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
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We would love to have your input there Joe!

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Fresh out of piñatas?

I wonder if they are environmentally conscious over there and if they are into recycling? I guess we'll find out soon enough if we get invites!

I cannot control what a forum member does on someone elses forum. I have not asked or suggested that he or any other of our forum members "pm" anyone here regarding the other forum.

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Members are prohibited from reprinting "recycling" any discussions from other forums there.

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I didn't ask you to.

I do sort of wonder why you didn't just own up to which forum you are a mod for, instead of deflecting by saying you didn't mod two old defunct forums....

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Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

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I don't know if I could survive or not, and I don't care to try. It's a combination of things as we ALL know, not just the library.

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You're absolutely correct that it is a combination of things as we all know and not just the library. However, I believe there is too much emphasis placed on the library alone and not enough placed on the skills of the host.

Because I am respecting this forum by not advertising and promoting my forum on another (here) forum. If you wish to pm me I will give you the forum address.

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I keep talking about enhancement and the sum of things. You keep talking about "make or break" or going under, or only this or only that. You appear to have an ax to grind, and you'll pick any handy grindstone. I didn't particularly want to be that.

I believe Sound Choice is the highest-quality brand out there. You say I shouldn't care, and that if I do care my hosting skills suck. Perhaps you will understand if it looks to me like you are not looking to find common ground.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

Acknowledging that you are a moderator on another forum doesn't mean you give its URL.

I don't care if you're a moderator there. I just wondered why you didn't seem to want to admit it.

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Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

Where did that come from? I don't believe that I have ever stated that the absence of any brand would be any sort of detriment to my business. It is not a "make or break" narrow selection of choices– at least not from me. It never has been.

My objection comes into play only when a KJ says that the absence of any brand will severely hamper their business. Not that the addition of any brand will "enhance" their business.


Now who is doing the "ascribing" here? I would agree that sound choice is one of the most consistent brands out there, but I don't believe I have ever said that you "shouldn't care." Which you misunderstood apparently, is that there are so many KJ's on this forum that believe that the absence of that one brand would severely hurt their business. I understand your position of saying that it is a competitive edge and that it enhances your business, but if you believe that it is an absolute requirement in order to maintain your position in this business, then and only then, do your hosting skills come into question.

If you believe that your income would be directly affected by the absence of that one brand then again, your hosting skills will come into question. If you believe that your income would be directly affected – because patrons would go elsewhere to sing that brand you don't have – then your hosting skills will again come into question. There are too many alternative choices to lose patrons over any brand of karaoke disc.

I have a problem when a KJ believes that any single brand of disc is somehow the hingepin between mediocrity and success. And I certainly don't intend to toot my own horn, but I used the sound choice brand for well over ten years, so you would think that patrons would become very used to having that brand around. I then dropped the brand, and I would be surprised if I lost any more than three diehard sound choice brand singers.

So no, I did not say that if you must have sound choice than as a host you suck, however if you believe that your business is reliant on any single brand, then yes, your hosting skills would come into question. The reason I say this is because it is very easy for any person with no hosting skills at all to simply purchase a sound system, spend a lot of money on sound choice discs or the chart buster hard drive, and still go out of business.

If you are seen as a top end karaoke host, lacking Sound Choice will severely hamper your business. They have the best stuff, and if you don't have that brand, you won't be the high-priced spread.


This all started when I said something to the effect of "there is such a thing as revenue enhancement, which I think having Sound Choice can provide." You launched into a diatribe about how any host that couldn't handle not having Sound Choice without going under wasn't much of a host.


If you want to be in the top tier in many markets, I think Sound Choice is pretty much of a requirement. Could you be a pretty successful host without them? Sure. But Sound Choice, for better or worse, is acknowledged to be the gold standard. You can't claim to have the best stuff without them. In some markets, this might disqualify you.


See, there you go again.


I already explained that it isn't a single brand of disk. It is the TOP brand of disk. It is not the same as not having Pioneer, DK, or Zoom.

And "not losing your accounts" is not the situation. It is overall competitiveness, and you aren't as competitive if you don't have Sound Choice. Period.


There you go again, with your "any single brand". It isn't just any single brand, which is why your line is a bunch of hooey.

Can you run a show without Sound Choice, a good one? Sure. Will you be as competitive in a tough market? No way.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

See? There YOU go again, claiming that the absence of sound choice will somehow hamper your business. I understand that you believe that they are the cream of the crop, the top of the list, the berries on your cereal or whatever you want to call it, my assertion is that if you are dependent on any brand, it doesn't matter what brand it is, then you are dependent on your materials and not your skills.

I'm surprised that you have not stated that if you do not own a Shure microphone, then your business will be hampered the same way. Or, unless you're using a certain brand of hosting software you won't be in that high-priced spread.


I disagree that any brand of karaoke disc is "revenue enhancement" and that includes sound choice. I dropped their brand a long time ago and it has not affected my revenue. Because to follow your thinking to its logical conclusion the absence of sound choice would be a detriment to your revenue, and I can certainly tell you from experience, that this is not true. You're welcome to disagree all you like, the difference is I have actually dropped their brand and have the experience behind me – you have not. Therefore your position is purely speculation, my position is from experience.



Once again, you're talking about "stuff" and not "skills." Does that mean that you are also not "top-tier" if you don't have 3000 W amplifiers, two giant base bottoms, a laser light show and a free foot massage? Those can also be classified as "the gold standard" for what they do – does this also kick you off of the top tier?



I disagree.



And there you go again. It is what you consider to be "top brand of disc." Now perhaps to you, this is the top brand of disc – however to someone like Joe C, then DK is the top brand of disc, perhaps chartbuster is rumbolt's "top brand of disc." My objection is that your opinion of one brand of disc – no matter how much you like it – is still your opinion. Sound choice is your top brand of disc, it is important to you to have that brand, it may not be important to someone else to have that brand, and to state that that brand is the best over everything out there as though it is some sort of authoritative answer is simply misleading.


I understand that to you, the sun rises and sets on sound choice. However, in the business world, that "single brand" is simply not as important as you would like to make it out to be. it is simply another brand of disc, granted their quality is good, I have never discredited them for that. However I don't place them on the same pedestal that you do.


This is pure speculation on your part because you've never run a show without sound choice, and you'd never run a show without sound choice in a tough market.


I have, and I do. And I turn down more jobs than I accept.

He never stated that. The way I read it is a show can be successful without SC, however being 1 (ONE) factor/percentage in running a 100% show (which I doubt exists), without it, no show can possibly be 100% no matter how good everything else is. It just is simple math, 100% minus any percentage is no longer 100%.

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