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Chris, we are djs and looked at by our peers as djs.

If you look around the industry there are smaller events held around the country sponsered by NAME or ADJA chapters that bring in sponsors.

ARMDJS in Tennessee in June. The Conclave held in Minn. There is a DJ conference in Raleigh, NC sometime the end of this summer. I am sure that there are events helod in the middle and west coast but I personally unaware of them since they are out of my market. You just have to look around.

Mobile beat Vegas in Feb. The DJ event in Aug in Atlantic City. The DJ Show in September.

Those are just a few.

If you attended the most recent national events you would have seen the karaoke presence.

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So don't go and just stay on the sidelines. BTW, Ryan is personally involved with Karaoke in his home market in Iowa so he does understand Karaoke more than you realize. Maybe you did not know that.

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

If he is like me and some others, FB is the last place to try to get in touch with me or him. I am not on FB every day and maybe he is not either. Might i suggest you contact him directly through the magazine via phone or email. I have his cell number but unless he instructs me that its ok I will not make it public. If you want me to pass along your contact info I will be glad to in a pm.

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

I think we all need to try to really find some reasonable common ground about the national events and move away from the us against them way of thinking that seems to have overtake this thread. There are lots of opinions that have been expressed and while reading through the discussion a common theme seems to be played over and over again. It is that we are too dependent upon this forum for our daily appetite for reliable and accurate information about our industry. Too often we fall into the trap that if someone speaks their opinion as truth that be it so and everyone else is expected to accept it a fact. I say woah it down and do your homework and fact checking. Make those phone calls to the people in the positions that really matter that can help you or at least explain a situation and accept that sometime they will not give you the answer you want or expect. Unless you are in their position you really can't expect them to always do what you want or feel as you do about a specific situation. Open a reasonable channel of communication and treat them as you want to be treated and remember unless you are in their shoes you probably do not know what they know and visa versa. If we all act and speak with clear and defined actions, I think our part of the entertainment industry could raise itself up to a level where the dj part of our industry will take notice. I have no doubt that many of my professional DJ peers have respect for me as a DJ knowing I am also a professional KJ and not a karaoke hack as some in the DJ world only know because of what they see or percieve by watching the average karaoke host perform. I am not average and everyone should strive to be above average. That is where ongoing training comes in. This is exactly why I attend shows and once my peers come to know me personally they find that I am actually a hard working professional blending my services in the DJ/KJ world. The shows have helped me become a better person, and a more professional KJ and DJ even though the events might not have KJ in the title, the seminars are relevent either way. You might only host a few karaoke show each week but you are still a working DJ also because of your hosting skills. Just something to think about.....

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

He has yet to show any karaoke involvement or any real interest in attracting the industry. Nothing personal here, just noting his promotions and reactions to the last show, and those involved with the karaoke end of it.

Look, I'm not sitting here knocking the guy, only past performance. He has a chance to do better this time, either by bringing a karaoke specific person on board, or at the very least listening to and retaining imput from those of us who are industry specific.

I hope he does. Good for all.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

True, I've not been there in the last two years.. (For that show)

I do go to Vegas for other shows. Shows (or conventions) that provide positive information regarding the topics I'm interested in.

And I do visit my money in Vegas at least 4 -5 times a year.

And I did meet Kurt.. (Kinda acted like a di*k) Not impressed..

The idea that KJs can band together and promote growth and increase profits while remaining legal was the topic on my speech at the DJ thingy.

Bah, Hum bug! was the response..

No way anyone is telling me what to do. Eff off and go back to L. A...

Anyway, it was not what I expected.. So I'm done..

Ryan is pretty active on FB. I chatted with him a little. Going to try to arrange a call with him to discuss more.

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-Chris

Last winters show (Feb 2014) was very Karaoke specific and not just about the manus. Your impression of what took place is way off base. There was so much discussion that the cameras did not catch.

But you are knocking the guy when you really did not go and get what really took place in the discussion ans around the show. What reactions are you speaking of?

I know that the people in the room during the discussions were sometimes standing because of lack of chairs and often times the conversations continued past the alloted times and later out into the halls and over dinner. Ant the mood afterwards was very positive from those that came up and spoke with me (not just one or two but groups at a time).

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

That makes it sound like a smashing success. So where is the love this year? Not only is there no information on karaoke related content, but the show specials end tomorrow. No info for KJ's AND we pay full price.

Why can't you see the disconnect here?!?!

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-Chris

What was the results of that February 2014 seminar/meeting? What has changed in the industry since then? A bunch of guys who agree with each other, listening to another guy talk who agrees with them is just preaching to the choir. Name one or two things that were accomplished because of that meeting. And do not say he new Karaoke Association because it has not done anything either and the web site is not even complete.

Dialog was started in some of the circles and no, not everyone was in agreement on all subjects. Many points of view were discussed and lost of suggestions were thrown around during some of the discussions. But them since you were not there you could not possibly know that.

The new Karaoke Association is still in the developmental stages. In fact, later today (the 31st) I will be involved in a conference call with other board members of the NKA. although there is not much happening in front of you there are lots of thing happening behind the scenes as the association prepares for it full launch.

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

If you remember there was a Karaoke specific pass that was priced at $40 for the karaoke portions of Mobile Beat. I would suspect that same thing before the next show. As a matter of record the karaoke module at MB18 was not even mentioned until after the October 2013 meetings. Its still just july on my calendar.

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

Yup Rick... I see your question was answered.

I didn't go to the conference to change the national dynamic of karaoke. I went to learn new ideas to make more money. We can't even agree on the proper way to run a rotation past be consistent and fair.

If this forum is any indication, we KJs as a group have become a rather cantankerous bunch. If you don't believe that check out the archives here and compare the ratios of information to argument then and now.

As for DJs, for whatever reason they command more respect and make more money on average for their gigs than KJs do. If that's not true in your case - bravo!

I think one of the reasons DJ's seem to get more respect is because they are on their own. We are at the mercy of all of the highly skilled and talented superstar singers that frequent our shows.

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-Chris

Since you have been away the last 2 years there have been substantial changes in the mood of Karaoke. Time to come back. Karaoke host or DJs now wanting the revenue possible (or midweek income some lack) by becoming a standout KJ in their market is an example of the changes that have been happening. More kj are realizing that just having massive numbers of songs will not promise them riches. Learning professional hosting skills or refining the skills they already have is just one of the topics that has been very well recieved by attendees in Vegas. Come to see the changes and spend time networking with the Kjs that show up.

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Lol. Thank you, Chris!

A question in need of an HONEST answer, Rum: Does SC, a non-player, non- producer, non-contributor to our industry- except for parasitical litigation- have anything at all to do with the formation, oversight, or control of the aforementioned association? This would include board membership. A simple yes or no will cover it.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

I will address your question posed in a moment but to call SC "a non-player, non- producer, non-contributor to our industry" is your opinion and not mine since I can still buy their products and that does contribute to my business and their tracks do still get played almost every night at one or more of my shows by request so I consider them a ongoing player in the success of my shows. As for them being a non producer (in the sense of not making new tracks) , sure , but so others including DK, Music Mestro..... and others but I bet you still use their products which helps to "produce" revenue for you.

As for the answer to your original question: I have never been anything but truthful regarding any post I have been a party to since I have been involved with this forum so to ask me to be honest make me question the sincerity of your question. Why would you think I might lie to you or anyone? So with that being said, I will step away from your question and let you twist into the wind and so you can create your own answer based on zero information that you could possibly have. Just goes to show that you have no faith in others trying to help this industry move forward but simply think all actions have some sort of hidden agenda pushed by the manus. I guess you will just have to wait and see where that manus (past and present) fit or not in The NKA.

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I asked the question - which required a simple yes or no answer - because other supposed karaoke orgs such as the KIAA were simply SC agenda pushers with no goals set for the industry itself - with the result of mass ship - jumping. Since you are an honest guy ( yes, I DO know that to be true), and yet refused to give that simple "no " answer, I now have - which I didn't before - the strong feeling that SC is once again involved and agenda pushing. Unless you post otherwise, then I have to believe that we have another worthless "association" to talk about and then ignore.

That being said, I offer another simple yay or nay opportunity. Is SC involved in the new organization?

Refusal to answer IS an answer....

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."