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I've often wondered why the rights holders/owners failed to produce the product in Karaoke versions.

How difficult can it be if garage shops from "Resume Speed" wherever can do it?

That would solve many issues..

I understand some have. And I agree, it would solve a lot of issues, PLUS it would be the best version you cold possibly get, easier to produce and less expensive to make and buy. Mix one more time minus the main vocals, out source the CDG editing and blamo!

This does suggest that karaoke manufacturers may be one of the most excessive and even unnecessary ventures around these days. However, I imagine the very mentality and ego it takes to originally create the music that is replicated by karaoke manufacturers is what keeps the vast majority of them from wanting to submit their work to the stigma that is karaoke...

I am sure it has been the artists putting the kabash on producing karaoke tracks of their music. But I think new artists coming up, like Taylor Swift, May be changing that culture. The bottom line is, it's going to happen. Why not make the most of it?

interresting.....
there were no problems from the publishers until some US company awoke the monster....
there were no problems with MCPS licensing until some US company used it to skirt US publisher rights and awoke the monster....
the two biggest problems at the moment with producing new music here............

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Something I was unaware of until recently is that the publishers are suing the Slep brothers and SC for copyright infringement. Even if the allegations aren't proved in court, the publishers must believe that they have been wronged, or they would not have followed through with filing the suit. If that is the case and since it has only been filed this year, could it be that the publishers are withholding approval because of this suit? After all would you sign an agreement with a company you feel has been stealing from you?

I am relatively certain you will get no response from SC/Harrington, for any number of reasons ( ) but one being if this very comprehensible hypothesis is true, do you really expect it to be admitted?

Of course not. Have a blessed day.

JD, because it is more cost effective. If the recording companies did this then they would have to make double the product for a small portion of the population who would use it. Further, I bet they make more money by selling licences.

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Perhaps, but they really would only have extra downloads on iTunes..

Nobody actually makes this crap anymore do they?

There is another- though hard to believe- possibility.

If Jim's description of the situation is accurate, it may- for some reason- only be aimed at SC. Again I would ask if anyone has heard of similar happening to any other company such as DT, SyberSound, Pocket, All Star, etc...

This is actually quite important. If it's all, and not just SC, we can expect BIG changes in the industry. If it's just SC....well, it's just SC.

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I mentioned the possibility of awakening the sleeping giants when all this stuff started years ago. If they wake up now in regard to karaoke, we KNOW who the biggest (some would say only) karaoke industry related noisemaker is. It would be a good thing to remember...

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DT has been going round and round trying to get licensing as well. I would say this is much more likely a "U.S" thing than a "SC" thing.

If manus can't get licensing for new product or to remake old product, whose fault it that really the pirates, I think not. Maybe it is the fault of the one manu, that has made it's core business protecting it's rights, to the point of arousing the anger of the publisher's.
All of the other manus have been quite and gone about their business, not SC. Rather than continuing to be a viable producer, they have elected to make the core business legal litigation. Using the legal process to sell what product they still make under their trademark. If commercial karaoke ceases to be, it will not be the lowly pirate that brought it down. It will be one manu whose unwillingness to compromise and grand standing, finally caught the attention of the publishers. Have a blessed day.

Although I don't agree with a lot of what has went down through Sound Choice's pursuit of protecting their trademark and attempt to recoup losses, it would be really reaching to think that the pursuit would raise the ire of music publishers. Why would it? It has no impact on the publishers bottom line or anything else related to their business.

I can download instrumental tracks of popular music via my Prime Cuts subscription. I use them for background music for several of the 5K races I provide sound and mc services. So they are already being produced, it would just be the expense of adding the graphic swipes. Why couldn't some karaoke company just license those instrumental tracks and not have the expense of production?

In business Tommy the name of the game is maximize profits. If the publishers see SC taking hosts to court because of trademark infringement, it isn't too far a stretch for them to think they can do the same to the manus for copyright infringement. If the case pending before the court in New York is lost and SC is nailed by the publishers for tens of millions of dollars, that opens the flood gates for suing all the viable manus, even if they lose, they can always refuse to license any new material, or renew licensing for any old material. This is one time it is good to be the little guy. Let the big boys duke it out. Have a blessed day.

Give me a break and stop your ignorant agenda and rhetoric. Like somebody at Sony woke up one day and realized that you can file a lawsuit? And learned of that possibility from SC? Sure.....the publishers have never filed copyright suits or tried to obtain retribution before. You need to step back, take a deep breath and possibly increase your meds.

I'm gonna start a new thread about dog poop and see how long it takes to turn into a SC lawsuit thread.
I don't like everything they do but some balance here and there would be optimal..

Laugh all you want to guys, the joke will be on the commercial karaoke industry if the publishers get involved. SC already has a copyright infringement case filed against them in New York. If it should go against SC it could result in awards to the publishers for millions of dollars. I don't think SC has millions of dollars. Insane will tell SC has filed a motion for dismissal of charges, that is still pending. I don't think the publishers would file a 61 page suit unless they were pretty sure they had a case. Again I ask the question would you sign an agreement with a company you feel is stealing from you? Have a blessed day.