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Bird that's been answered. So a host has card that say "Karaoke With ******", for bookings call ******* at 555-1234 or e-mail at ****@****.com. This doesn't give a last name and again the number could be unlisted. None of which gives a last name or an address.

How many of you out there have your full name, address and a listed number on your cards?

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You can be strange but not a stranger

I do, and almost everyone else I know does, as well.

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Birdofsong

I do as well. It's call being a professional.

The professionals are not the ones we have trouble identifying.

It is very rare for us not to be able to identify the KJ, but it does happen.

i do as well. i can see the major problem being the little sleeze balls trying to duck under radar being the issues. they are more like the home stereo guys doing it for giggles than the pros.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

Really???
Yours, and the other suits filed on SC's behalf seem to indicate otherwise.

Harryington, Here's what you do.

Assist law enforcement in going after the criminal element of karaoke piracy. Also, you contact a municipalities business code enforcement, and work with them so they know how to spot, regulate the problem themselves.

Right now every muni I know of is cash strapped, because federal funding is drying up.

I've watched SJPD go after sellers of fake Gucci and D&G bags out at our flea market. This would be a goldmine for them, as well as the liquor licensing agencies. Attatch penalties to the venue (forget about going after individual KJ's) It would only take one or two getting shuttered for a few weeks to send a message to the rest... Make sure your KJ is legit.

You also need to change the direction of the KIAA. Lawsuits are nice, but laws and enforcement are better. It's been said 100's of times (I felt this way myself) that any "advisors" to the KIAA that aren't a karaoke producer, has zero consideration for their input.

If you made us feel that you're actually going to lobby, so enforcement happens on a criminal level, then you might garner more support from the rest of us. This isn't hard to do, just start mailing checks to your local congressman. Letter writing campaigns help as well (with more checks) Give checks to local Sheriff and Police Chief candidates (unless the position is an appointed one, then default to the appointee) As a lawyer, I'm sure you've taken a poly-sci class or two.

If you could convince every legit KJ to send $5 to a lawmaker of your choice 12 times a year, we would get their attention. I think there's about 10,000 legit KJ's, I could be wrong though.

This is all well and good but for those KJs who choose not to use Sound Choice product that opens up a whole new issue. There are many other options for karaoke tracks - once again: What makes those guys "certified"? You can't say they can't work in a bar because SC or CB hasn't certified them. Who enforces orphaned brands, downloads, etc.
And who would do the constant policing of the hard drives? The ones who are up to skirting the "rules" anyway are going to load up their hard drives again as soon as they are cleared to work. Or better yet, the really clever ones will buy 2 hard drives, one loaded with everything, one with their legal stuff. No forensic data on a drive that never had those files on it in the first place....

Surely, giving bribes to congressmen and law enforcement authorities is illegal, is it not?


http://www.enotes.com/major-acts-congress/bribery-act

Murray, Murray, Murray......

These are not "bribes"... of course that would be illegal....

These are simply "campaign contributions in advance".... and those are perfectly legal.....

It doesn't matter if you have the tracks on your drive. Simply having the tracks on your drive is not - unto itself - illegal at all. They display nothing. You can have 3 zillion on your drive, if you never display the trademark there's no violation and certainly no damages in my opinion.

Remember the SC's "mama's" saying when it comes to HarringtonLaw: RBTL

Can this be right?

Say I have a thousand stolen cars parked in a private lot. I'm okay as long as I don't drive them?

I think being in possession of stolen goods might still constitute criminal activity and create probable cause for an investigation.

Of course, I don't know how you'd verify those zillion tracks and their status.

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Never the same show twice!

I'm not sure how it is in the States, but that is how it is in Canada. It's not illegal to have them on your drive or even to download them. And that HAS been tested in court here.
But sharing them is another story altogether.

Diafel, true, with the exception of commercial use. This is why DJs in Canada have to pay AVLA if they format shift to computer. Private use, you can have and play as many as you want.

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You can be strange but not a stranger

Is there a website that lists DJ's in Canada that has the AVLA license?

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=DJ%27s+in+Canada+t ... LA+license

took me about 10 seconds.....YMMV...........

curiosity, does the ALVA require you have the original and are only format shifting, or does it cover whatever tracks you have weather legally acquired or not?

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

I find it humorous that you always end your conclusive assertions with "in my opinion," as though that insulates you for being incorrect.

Simply having the tracks on a drive is not a trademark infringement, but the minute that drive is used for a commercial karaoke performance, the drive--which has been "marked" by having the marked tracks stored on it--is being "used in commerce" and is therefore subject to the Trademark Act.

So, sure, you can "have" those tracks, but you can't legally use the drive they're on, so do you really "have" them?

Of course, in order to get them onto the drive, you had to make a copy, which is a copyright infringement. Thus, it is not accurate to say that it is "not...illegal at all."

Thanks Joe.

Was able to find this list.

http://www.avla.ca/media/1019/list%20of ... ebsite.pdf

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"Just Say NO, To Justin Bieber & His Beatle Haircut"

Chip you never cease to amaze me with your broad understanding of the world.

I'm going on the campaign trail soon enough, I'll be shooting for a small seat (school board) My city council run was a good, quick lesson in how politics works.