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That's a great start, however those aren't graphic tracks correct - audio only? It's always been said it's easy to obtain license for audio only tracks, it's the lyrics reprint/sync that can be the trick.

yup, i agree, it is not a CDG track, but If Priddis can put up the mechanical license, then to put up the lyric reprint should not be too difficult for anyone.
consider this.....if i get the GEM, i must post my license stickers in plain sight on the hard drive for all to see. why not if i buy a song, the manu must display the license in plain sight for all to see?
i have to but the manus are exempt?

we can not download songs because SC has said that we can not, SC has sated that the download sites do not have the correct licensing. but at least one of those sited has said B.S. on that. they have not put up licenses, but neither has SC. so it is 100% he said / she said.
Moonrider has said that you can get a download license instead of a Disc license (i forget the exact terminology) and CB is now offering streaming as well as the buy by the track digital tracks (KJHD) by DOWNLOADING them.
so is SC scamming us, or is CB scamming us?

we can not download songs because SC has said that we can not, SC has stated that the download sites do not have the correct licensing.

CB is now offering streaming as well as the buy by the track digital tracks (KJHD) by DOWNLOADING them. So is SC scamming us, or is CB scamming us?

There is a difference between a track downloaded for KJ Media Pro and from Tricerasoft. Tricerasoft's is ready to go CB's Media pro you have to unlock first.

Running internet to download a song is not a good idea, unless you're running a super computer.

Really? I've done this (downloaded from Tricerasoft while running Siglos) on numerous occasions with friends over singing at the house. I'm using an old IBM Thinkpad T-43.

I personally will wait to download a song, if I were downloading it, until I got home because too many processes are being used at the same time and MIGHT interfere with the running of your hosting program. Besides I don't want to have to constantly pull up my importing function of my hosting program during a show. The other thing is if you switch to another program say your internet browser then not only does my hosting software minimize but so does the lyric screen. I am running Compuhost.

the difference is i download the track from CB and then pay for it afterwards. with Tricerasoft, i pay for the track first then download it. either way, i sit a home after the show, and download a track i need for a singer. same thing.
my p[oint was SC says all downloads are illegal (even in the safe harbor paperwork) but CB says they are ok and is offering them for kj's. who is lying?

don't you download all the tracks to the hard drive to unlock them?
they do not send you discs.

On the CB thing, don't you download to get the latest songs added?

On the CB thing, don't you download to get the latest songs added?

odd, mine are all 192

Speaking of the Gem Rental agreement, let's see where we might find an "indemnification" clause:

OWNERSHIP. You acknowledge and agree that the ownership of all Media, including all right, title,
and interest therein, belongs to Sound Choice and will remain with Sound Choice throughout the term
of this Agreement. You also acknowledge that all rights in the Media and the Content not specifically
granted to you by operation of law or expressly granted through this Agreement are reserved to Sound
Choice or to third parties, as applicable. You further acknowledge and agree that the ownership of all
Content—including the entire right, title, and interest therein, including copyrights, trademarks, and
other intellectual property rights—belongs to Sound Choice or the respective rights holders of the
Content. In particular, copyright in the underlying musical works (the composition rights) belongs to
the original authors or their assignees and are reserved to them. This Agreement does not grant you
any rights with respect to those copyright holders. We are unable to grant you any particular license or
resolve any claim on behalf of those copyright holders or any other third party. You are responsible for
obtaining any necessary licenses or permissions prior to any public performance of the underlying
musical works


If you think this is sufficient, God bless ya. I think that might be THE EXACT OPPOSITE if an "indemnification" clause. That's a "we ain't coverin' $hit" clause, if you ask me. It CLEARLY disclaims any possible license. If Don Henly comes knockin', you're on your own. So why is it exactly that PCDJ should all of a sudden start guaranteeing possible future losses on the SAME TRACK SOLD FROM THEIR SITE?

Don Henley is represented by BMI. If he comes knockin', show him that your venue has paid its BMI fees and tell him to belly up to the bar and have another Tequila Sunrise.

If you buy an ordinary music CD off the shelf at Walmart, you can play that to your heart's content at home, but if you want to play it in a public venue like a club, or broadcast it over the air, or stream it over the Internet, you need an appropriate license to do that. That doesn't make the music CD you bought unlicensed. It just means that there are other permissions you need to obtain that aren't covered by the original purchase. It's the same with the GEM series.

Don Henley is represented by BMI. If he comes knockin', show him that your venue has paid its BMI fees and tell him to belly up to the bar and have another Tequila Sunrise.

so am i understanding correctly that the difference between home use public performance of these tracks is the venue obtaining a P.R. license?