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chrisavis
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:51 am |
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RaokeBoy wrote: HarringtonLaw wrote: She filed dismissal papers against two defendants in the case she was handling, based upon settlement agreements that called for dismissal after the payment of money. Those dismissals are a matter of public record. She obviously received the money, and I have seen a copy of the canceled check indicating that she did. Yet she failed to remit the funds to her client and has not responded to telephone calls, emails, or letters since at least October.
These are not attacks on her character. They're statements of fact. That they reflect poorly on her character is her own fault. The simple fact that Slep-tone has not been paid does not mean that she stole the money. Don't lawyers have trust accounts which hold funds that arrive to them in a case? What if there is a dispute between Slep-tone and APS over who is entitled to the funds that arrived? Based on Slep-tone's lawsuit against APS, there clearly is and she was receiving the funds. Is she supposed to distribute the funds to Slep-tone just because Slep-tone demands them and risk a lawsuit from APS/Brophy for improperly doing so? Are you sure she is not holding the funds in her trust account until your dispute with APS and Brophy is resolved? The fact the you accuse her of stealing money is a very serious accusation against her. Thus far you have presented no proof of it. Without such proof don't you think your accusation is slanderous? Curious as to why you even care? -Chris
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RaokeBoy
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:56 am |
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Libel? Slander? Glad you at least agree Insane that such a statement could be defamatory. Maybe you can tell us too whether Ms. Boris will be taking action. Or maybe you are her. .
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Insane KJ
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:58 am |
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RaokeBoy wrote: Libel? Slander? Glad you at least agree Insane. I did not agree. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
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timberlea
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:43 pm |
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No comprehension problem just a problem with trying to spin things that cannot be spun. SC asks for the money, it is refused and no proof shown that it is in a trust account. If it were she would have immediately shown the proof and there the matter would have ended, at least at that point. But hey why use logic when it is more fun to try and smear people.
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RaokeBoy
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:54 pm |
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timberlea wrote: No comprehension problem just a problem with trying to spin things that cannot be spun. SC asks for the money, it is refused and no proof shown that it is in a trust account. If it were she would have immediately shown the proof and there the matter would have ended, at least at that point. But hey why use logic when it is more fun to try and smear people. No spin here. But you are assuming she actually stole it if she chose not to immediately show proof of the funds in her trust account? Wow! Please note too that Harrington has not come forward at all with any information that she has told him she does not have the money in trust, as if that little factoid matters to many on this board. "But hey why use logic when it is more fun to try and smear people."
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RaokeBoy
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:58 pm |
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Insane KJ wrote: RaokeBoy wrote: Libel? Slander? Glad you at least agree Insane. I did not agree. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Insane KJ wrote: First it would be libel, not slander if not true. Seems one of has a comprehension problem.
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timberlea
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:16 pm |
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Raoke, if you knew anything about trust accounts, you would realize more lawyers get disbarred because they misuse them. Now do you really expect that anyone here would believe that any lawyer would refuse to show their trust accounts to their clients on demand? There is no explanation, it is cut and dry, Client: I want to see the trust account, Lawyer: Here it is. No explanations, no delays, no nothing.
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RaokeBoy
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:30 pm |
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timberlea wrote: Raoke, if you knew anything about trust accounts, you would realize more lawyers get disbarred because they misuse them. Now do you really expect that anyone here would believe that any lawyer would refuse to show their trust accounts to their clients on demand? There is no explanation, it is cut and dry, Client: I want to see the trust account, Lawyer: Here it is. No explanations, no delays, no nothing. I never said a lawyer cannot be disciplined for misusing her trust account. (Incidentally, where is the proof that Boris did?) But let's stay on point. You can keep guessing about whether Boris showed her trust account to Slep-tone, but that is irrelevant unless a mere failure to do so constitutes theft, which I cannot imagine. But accusing one of stealing can have significant consequences if the accusation is not true. Don't you agree? After all, InsaneKJ, Esq. says it would be libel. Seems to me he is right in this instance.
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Insane KJ
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:16 pm |
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RaokeBoy wrote: Insane KJ wrote: Insane KJ wrote: First it would be libel (print), not slander (vocal), if what was posted here in print by Harrington was found to be not true. Seems one of has a comprehension problem. There, I fixed my comment to be more understandable to the laymen, which we assume you are not. It was obvious what I meant. BTW, have you read these forum rules? viewtopic.php?f=26&t=21939
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RaokeBoy
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:31 pm |
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Insane KJ wrote: RaokeBoy wrote: Insane KJ wrote: Insane KJ wrote: First it would be libel (print), not slander (vocal), if what was posted here in print by Harrington was found to be not true. Seems one of has a comprehension problem. There, I fixed my comment to be more understandable to the laymen, which we assume you are not. It was obvious what I meant. BTW, have you read these forum rules? viewtopic.php?f=26&t=21939Thanks for clarifying Insane. And yes, I have read them, but you keep insisting on trying to post personal data in violation of the rules. First you speculated that I was Chip, now you are apparently guessing again that I am someone else. Kind of sneaky when you refuse to reveal who you are, don't you think? Question is, have you read the rules? Have an insane day.
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Insane KJ
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:40 pm |
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RaokeBoy wrote: Insane KJ wrote: BTW, have you read these forum rules? viewtopic.php?f=26&t=21939Thanks for clarifying Insane. And yes, I have read them, but you keep insisting on trying to post personal data in violation of the rules. Where have I posted personal data regarding you? If I insist for you to reveal it, I am not in violation of anything. It appears to me that you have already posted personal data on Mr. Harrington in my opinion here: viewtopic.php?f=26&t=27301&start=180#p359983
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jdmeister
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:15 pm |
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If these ^^^ type of "Off Topic" posts continue, you will reap the consequences of your actions.
Last warning!
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:07 am |
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jdmeister wrote: If these ^^^ type of "Off Topic" posts continue, you will reap the consequences of your actions.
Last warning! To whom are you directing this post?
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The Lone Ranger
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:38 am |
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Insane KJ wrote: birdofsong wrote: you might want to also give the same treatment to InsaneKJ. I was given bad treatment from your husband, diafel, JoeC, and others almost immediately from my first posts regarding the very first SC lawsuit in 2009 and any mention of KIAA. I was the first to report here on KS about that lawsuit which began this entire discussion on SC going after pirates in the courts, so please stop playing the victim. Many members here immediately ganged up on me for posting the anti-piracy efforts of KIAA and the SC lawsuits. No wonder that I went on the defensive because people like you and your husband treated me like sh!t. So again, please stop playing the victim bird. Your husband brought on his woes himself by his "vile" posts causing reactions from others. BTW, leading up to my banning from KS in January 2010, the thread that I started on that very first lawsuit was deleted because I posted information about Dan Dan's criminal background, which was of public record and had nothing to do with the SC lawsuit he was involved in. Now RoakeBoy has posted about Harrington's dealings in other cases, which are of public record and have nothing to do with the SC lawsuits that he is involved in. My anonymity has to do with the amount of reporting alleged pirates in our market share, beginning in 2009, and not tipping our hand. We are still waiting for lawsuits in our area. I post on forums as an individual, not representing the company I work for, thus more reason to remain anonymous. My posts are mine alone, not the view of the companies. So if my anonymity is viewed as being non-credible, so be it. You can say the same of RoakeBoy's credibility in the same vein. Is there really any difference? There may be a difference. Me, I'm just a guy, who by the way is not on the Slep-Tone payroll, who works for a humble karaoke company and has a passion for getting rid of pirates in our area. My opinion is that RoakeBoy seems to appear that he is more involved in these lawsuits, which ARE of public record. As Harrington said, "He has an agenda". I could really give a fu<k about what you and others think about my credibility in all this, and how it may effect my job ethically, but if my suspicions are correct, RoakeBoy's credibility could have disastrous effects in his field of work, and in the ethics that are required. Have a chipper day in Suite 1300! How many pirates have you gotten rid personally Insane? Oh that's right you can't give out details about yourself, the company you work for or your area even. If full disclosure is linked to credibility then where is your credibility? You are a karaoke host that works for someone else, that is probably why except for the legal process you make no other comment on any other aspect of karaoke. You don't seem to have much interest in any other part of your supposed craft. You have been hosting long enough you should have set up your own company, and stopped working for others, right? Why haven't you? Have an Insane day.
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:42 pm |
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Insane KJ wrote: I was given bad treatment from your husband, diafel, JoeC, and others ..... Just to clear the record: I have certainly disagreed with you, but you would be hard-pressed to find any flames or ill treatment from me directed at you- and it hasn't been easy.
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mckyj57
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:28 am |
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JoeChartreuse wrote: Insane KJ wrote: I was given bad treatment from your husband, diafel, JoeC, and others ..... Just to clear the record: I have certainly disagreed with you, but you would be hard-pressed to find any flames or ill treatment from me directed at you- and it hasn't been easy. He was given "bad treatment" by me, for sure. If you count my protests at him starting 50 threads all about the same thing, promoting the now-moribund KIAA in the general discussion forum. This was the cause of the creation of the piracy forum -- outcry against this being the all-piracy, all-the-time channel. Indeed, that is the reason that most people have been banned around this topic for the past year or two -- the insistence in carrying the same argument and topic into many, many, threads. No one likes Johnny One Note singing the same song over the top of other people's musical discussions.
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:37 pm |
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mckyj57 wrote: JoeChartreuse wrote: Insane KJ wrote: I was given bad treatment from your husband, diafel, JoeC, and others ..... Just to clear the record: I have certainly disagreed with you, but you would be hard-pressed to find any flames or ill treatment from me directed at you- and it hasn't been easy. He was given "bad treatment" by me, for sure. If you count my protests at him starting 50 threads all about the same thing, promoting the now-moribund KIAA in the general discussion forum. This was the cause of the creation of the piracy forum -- outcry against this being the all-piracy, all-the-time channel. Indeed, that is the reason that most people have been banned around this topic for the past year or two -- the insistence in carrying the same argument and topic into many, many, threads. No one likes Johnny One Note singing the same song over the top of other people's musical discussions. Appreciate your honesty, Mick- I just don't like being hit for something I never did.... Which doesn't mean I've never screwed up, only that I've never done it as described by Insane....
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RaokeBoy
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Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:36 pm |
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Little wonder Slep-tone ran as fast as it could from Boris' other case in LA. Wow! Today Judge Wright severely hammered another troll and its lawyers and had fun doing so by using Star Trek references. He will be referring the lawyers to their state bars, to the IRS and for prosecution. Some of the language of his order against Prenda is quite similar to the language he used in slamming Slep-tone. In ordering Slep-tone also to pay fees, Judge Wright did level a special ditty at Slep-tone when he stated that its case was "nothing more than a shakedown." Note to Slep-tone - courts are catching on. http://ia601508.us.archive.org/28/items ... .130.0.pdf
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timberlea
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Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:05 pm |
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You do realize, contrary what you might believe, they are entirely different circumstances and cases.
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RaokeBoy
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Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:23 pm |
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timberlea wrote: You do realize, contrary what you might believe, they are entirely different circumstances and cases. You are correct sir. Every case has its own facts. Unlike boring little Slep-tone marks, the Prenda case does involve porn, which probably is amusing to some. The similarities between the two cases and defendants, however, can readily be drawn. Both defendants have been found by a federal judge, actually the same judge, to be trolls. Prenda is a copyright troll and Slep-tone is a trademark troll, each a species of intellectual property. Within the past four months, Prenda and Slep-tone were hammered by the same federal judge with attorneys fees for bad faith litigation conduct. Both were also called vexatious litigants - you may need to look that word up. But you are right, unlike the Prenda case, Judge Wright made findings that Slep-tone's case was "nothing more than a shakedown."
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