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read the thread. Rodney has ALWAYS USED A DISC PLAYER and got sued anyway. And now, others are making a point of pointing that out to others.
So don't think you can explain it away by saying to use a disc player.

the only thing Rodney did wrong was show a "copy" of the SC trademark on the screen from the original disc and is being sued for it.

download from torrent=get sued
buy loaded drive=get sued
media-shift someone elses discs=get sued
media shift your own discs=get sued
play direct from original discs=get sued

remember, according to SC and Harrington their investigators gather real evidence before suing and have gotten much better. if this is better.....how bad WAS it?

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download from torrent=get sued
buy loaded drive=get sued
media-shift someone elses discs=get sued
media shift your own discs=get sued
play direct from original discs=get sued

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The only thing remaining is --

don't use Sound Choice at all=get sued

-Chris

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Give them time, I'm sure they are working on this After all, how can you be a KJ with out carrying any SC I'm not even sure that is legal

Paradigm,
The evidence is being reviewed in Rodney's case. I prefer to believe that people here do tell the truth all the time....but as we know not all people tell the truth all the time. I hope that upon review of the information it can be shown Rodney is telling the truth however until the evidence has been looked at in depth it would be foolish to assume. There may be a few on these forums that have met in person and been to each others shows, that would be willing to stick their neck out and vouch for another. I personally reserve this for people that I know and have known for quite some time as I have been sorely disappointed by a number of people in my area that I would have sworn were legit until evidence proved otherwise. Are you willing to put your reputation on the line for someone you have never met based upon what they say on a karaoke forum ?

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This is all pretty simple.

Do you have a LISCENSE FROM THE MANUFACTURER to copy from an orginal disc for COMMERCIAL USE AND GAIN?

Either you do or you dont.

That's all there is to it.

No need for all this arguement.

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"You know that I sing the Blues and I do not suffer fools. When I'm on that silver mic, it's gonna cut ya, just like a knife"-The SWINGCAT

Athena;

i am being told to wait for proof that he is who he says he is, that he was using discs, and not take it at face value not knowing him.
i know SC, i know 2 defendants on one case personally. that is all i have for actual personal knowledge of the law suit situation.
from that information, 100% of those i know being sued were done so with wrong information and were never actually investigated. i have covered it before in other threads.
investigator swore to Michael Michael being a multi-rigger. false, never saw it, could not have seen it, a blatant lie.
investigator swore Darci Blackford was using drives at Red Onion. false, she did not work there at all, a blatant lie
investigator swore John (the host at red onion, not Darci) was doing multiple venues. false, his wife owns red onion and the system never leaves, blatant lie.
Red Onion was dropped from the suit because Darci does not work there, John (remember the guy doing "multiple venues") was dropped even though he still runs karaoke, on a drive, most every night there, had there been any investigation.......

SC's track record for what i personally know as fact is that they do not investigate. So if it is someones word vs. SC's word, i have to go against SC as they have a track record. that is just using logical deduction. would you believe Madoff if he said he could help you make money, or some total stranger who said he got screwed by Madoff? looking at his track record, you would believe the total stranger, and right now, so do i.
Unlike SC, i believe innocent until proven guilty.

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But just remember, this is not about the music... It's about the SC trademarked Logo being used in a format other than the CDG it was created/manufactured on, and used in public.

Exactly! And where can I find that in the law that I can't use those copies even if I have the original disks?

It's about the trademark attached to the copies of the music.

Your fine to use shifted/copied files for PERSONAL USE ONLY. That is covered under Fair Use.

You're not fine to use shifted/copied files FOR COMMERCIAL USE.

It's that simple.

Period.

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"You know that I sing the Blues and I do not suffer fools. When I'm on that silver mic, it's gonna cut ya, just like a knife"-The SWINGCAT

My music is not media shifted from my discs, it's simply buffered a little longer than the typical cd player.

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I don't think so. If I were to be sued for any reason regarding the Sound Choice label, there would be the fastest counter-suit on the planet.

I don't use Sound Choice, therefore:
No fake "investigation"
(I say that because based on the information on previous suits, there must not be any)
No lawsuit against me.
No lawsuit against my client(s) - the club(s).
No discovery.
No "audit" at all.
No "settlement" for anything.
No confidentiality agreement.
No "license" necessary - for anything.
No "purchase necessary" of anything.
No COST, now or in the future.

Every single problem that is caused by using their tracks - either on disc or ANY other means simply goes away - and IT'S FREE.

Just like Jeff Duham's character "Walter" would say:
"All they can do is run to the end of their chain and bark!"

Also:

No Sound Choice and the myriad of titles that no other producer has.

However, I guess a singer can bring his own disc. I carry a bunch with me when I go into a show. My local hotspot doesn't have some of the songs I like to sing.

WRONG

You have admitted that you own Soundchoice discs.
You have confessed that you are not playing those discs.
You have confessed that you are holding those discs in storage.

Those discs were manufactured and marked with the Souindchoice trademark for the purpose of playing either privately or publicly. By not playing those discs, but merely hoarding them you are not using them for the purpose intended.

Considering that there is limited quantity of discs currently available for use, your actions of disc hoarding are harming Soundchoice by limiting their trademark exposure to the available market.

Consider yourself eligible for legal action based on your gross negligence and improper non-display of the Soundchoice trademark.

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A singer can bring their own disc... provided it is NOT a Sound Choice track.

If they bring a burn and don't know the brand, it doesn't get played.

If they lie, they lose the disc on the spot.

We don't play games.

So sue me...

So you would steal someone's property at your show?

Remind me not to go to your shows!

I don't make it across the lake much anyway!

Not at all. I'm not a thief. They have the choice.


Don't come to my shows.

And he has the gall to go on about SC methods. You got a warrant or any legal authority to take discs.

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