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Wouldn't a lawyer just tell them to show the discs to Sound Choice?

He already did that. When they "INVESTIGATED." And just showing them the discs at this point doesn't undo the harm they have done to his reputation at this point by naming him in this lawsuit.

The irresponsibility (if it was simply a careless mistake, which seems incredibly unlikely) or lack of scruples (if they truly knew he was disc based and sued him anyway) is inexcusable, especially this late in the game. It appears that they simply do not care how many dolphins get caught in the tuna net. Or maybe more to the point, they are willing to sue you even knowing you are legal -- just to see if you'll settle. That certainly seems like the case. Look at Athena -- she has been told that Rodney is totally legal and is STILL trying to talk him into settling with Sound Choice.

Why should he even remotely consider that?

Just another day in Sound Choice paradise.

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Not at all... dolphins have money too....

It simply proves that all the propaganda that HarringtonLaw and SC have been shoveling out about their incredibly good and secretive investigative techniques are pure bull... It's all been a sham.

After all these lawsuits over the last 2 years, I'm not buying any story from them that it was "a mistake" or the "investigator was confused."

first, my condolences on your losses, it really has been a tough tine for you.

i have been trying to find a way to sit in the middle and see points on both sides, but i can't. I agree with everyone else that i would not go direct to Kurt, and even if he calls at this point, direct him to your lawyer and hang up. this time there is no excuse at all besides no investigation and suing only for using SC material. with your discs laid out for all to see there is no other option.
i would ask though one question Athena asked but you did not answer, do you use a computer at all in your shows? rotation management, lighting, etc?

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From the photos on his facebook it appears that he may...if he uses the same setup for Djing and karaoke as he has what appears to be a double drawer player showing in one of his photos titled Me DJing... next to a computer monitor with hosting software showing.....I can see how it could be confusing if he was using the computer for filler music , rotation ect. But lets let him answer to be sure

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Bull*** Athena. You weren't there, you're not the investigator. You're easily confused then. Not to mention you're grasping at every possible straw to help your buddies at SC save face by trying to pull every excuse out of your rear end to make look like Rodney's fault somehow. Why? because you saw a picture that had a computer in it? ... What you're really saying is; "You will get sued if there is a computer in the room - period."


He doesn't have to answer to you, expect your permission to "let him answer" or anything else. Stop acting like you are some kind of judge - you're not.

(Remember what I said earlier about users stalking facebook for SC?)

And people here mocked you for saying so, too. Shame on them!
I know they stalk, because I've been a victim of it myself.
Creepy, just downright creepy!

OMG! He's using (Gasp!) a computer (Oh, the HORROR!) at the same time that he's using a disc player!
OMG!!!
Send in the Calvary and let's crucify him right now! We all know that anyone that uses a computer in the same room as karaoke going on is a low life criminal pirate.

On a serious note, there is NOTHING confusing going on and there is NO excuse for this suit if, as he says, he has all his discs in plain view and if he actually showed them to the "investigator".
Seriously.

WTH?...facebook photos?...I am a professional dj...most professional dj's use Serato Scratch, which btw way doesn't use karaoke, at least I don't think so?
If anyone looked at the pictures at karaokescene karaoke fest, my disc are cleary laid out...
Laptops or pc's are generally used to look up songs, play music between sets, look up what may be available on karaoke cdg's..etc...also I often use my karaoke rig to DJ gigs too, especially since it's at the same location where I do both...
Funny thing how some would look for something to discredit me...and how long have I've been doing karaoke?
21 years, kinda leads any reasonable person to believe I have all my cdg's...
Also how does one transfers all their discs to computer anyways?
As a DJ it took me 7 years to transfer my albums and 45's to mp3..
BTW I have an estimated 7,000 albums,1,000's of 45's, 100's of 8 tracks...just not worth my time.
I also use sound bites, custom made mix cds at my shows not cdg's burns...
hopefully this answers your question...
I know I will win any lawsuit and/or slanderous staements against me.
Yes a lawyer will do my answering but why does one throw mud against the wall and see what sticks?
The Dolphin scenario is a good description for me, I, like Dolphins generally spend most the time having fun not hurting anyone and to be scooped up with a net for slaughter...please there is a better way.
If anything, release your catch before it kills it.
20,000 just to prove your innocent?
At the very least 500 dollars....that fee is not recoverable to just answer my complaint.

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Karaoke is supposed to be fun, if it isn't, then it's NOT KARAOKE.......

Just remember, she is SC's friend, not yours. Remember, she helps SC on their witch hunts, and she's quickly proving it, as you can see.
Expect more of the same from her and her buddies, especially if you continue to fight.
BUT DON'T GIVE UP!
There are those of us who don't go Facebook stalking (amongst other kinds) who have a more reasonable and realistic approach to these things.
Besides, if you step back and take a deep breath, it's really only a minor annoyance, which you can easily solve when and if you feel the time is right by taking the only piece of advice she gave out that I'm willing to concede to her - use the ignore button! But only use it if you just feel you can't take any more! I personally don't use it, because I think that everyone has something of value to offer, even if it's just an example of what NOT to do. That, and it makes ongoing threads confusing after a while.
Glad to hear you will be consulting your lawyer. As to why they feel the need to toss mud to see what sticks, it's simple: money.

Even though this it's outside my area of responsibility, I've asked the OP to contact me so I can make sure this gets reviewed immediately. I need more information to be able to do so.

Why don't you advise him to have HIS attorney talk to you?

You are the counsel of record for many HUNDREDS of these very same suits against KJ's.

It's "outside your area of responsibility" anyway.

If you're afraid of the "bad publicity" it's a little too late for that.

I want to personally thank "Peter Parker" for conversing with me with this matter.
We had a great discussion and has calmed me down and left me with a good view of what is happening right now.
I think in a short time I will be able to acclaim I am innocent, time will tell, hopefully at my age, it permits me to.....
I guess it's like when we were in school and someone says something about you and the principle calls you in, the truth comes out..
I just think it could have been done in a better manner.?
Thanks to all my friends who believe in me, I wouldn't have asked if I was in the wrong.
My mother taught me "if you're one percent wrong, you're one percent wrong, admit your wrongs so your right's are recognized"..

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This is America and you shouldn't have to. You shouldn't have to "prove innocence."
They have the burden to prove your "guilt" and they have no evidence that even remotely gives them any reason to suspect, much less act against you as they have.

I'm actually interested in making sure this gets addressed immediately because it's the right thing to do. If the suit was filed in error, regardless of the reason, that needs to be rectified as quickly as possible. It IS out of my area. Considering you don't know me, it's a little presumptuous on your part to accuse me, impliedly, of some improper motive.

Or maybe you'd prefer that we ignore him?

All I'm suggesting is that the PROPER method is to have Rodney's ATTORNEY discuss this matter with the attorney of record. (and it ain't you!)

Prior to filing a lawsuit against him in Federal Court, it would have been fine to discuss this with Rodney rather than wait until he was vulnerable and at an extreme disadvantage.

I personally don't care what your "motives" are beyond more "damage control", it's not proper and you know it.

I understand that you want to "swoop in a make things right like a caped superhero," however the "proper thing to do" is that you should talk to your client instead - you have no business talking to Rodney directly at this point.

How did it get that high? I thought their settlements were in the thousands? When were you first contacted by Sound Choice's "doofus" APS lawyer? Did they offer a free disc audit? Is Sound Choice now asking for millions right away instead of thousands?

This is sounding really fu(ked up man. I'm sorry.

Hi Rodney... It's great to hear you're still around (even under these circumstances). I'm sorry to hear about your Aunt, and send my condolences too.

I'm confident that you will be exonerated of the charges in this lawsuit; however, I hope you are able to recoup your Lawyer's costs from SC (whether it be voluntarily on their part, or via a Counter-Suit (such as what Chip suggested)).

Maybe you should come visit me in NY... I'll treat you to Junior's Cheesecake (it's better than the Jewish Cure-all of Chicken Soup).

To Second City Sound:
I was never told about any offerby APS, in fact their first call they made to me was a mistake, they had the wrong name completely, I explained who I was, and talked for awhile about and how I run my shows exclusively by cdg's.
The second call I got was was to contact them, I did but never heard back from the but once again they had the wrong name for me again....
I could only surmise that they were a very ill managed company, thus disregarded them as such?
The first time I heard of any amount was when I was served, it says they are suing me for 2million dollars and demand a jury trial.
A Jury trial, even I know to present a case to a jury against those of us who get paid far less than we actually put into this business, I would love to be on a jury that has to decide a battle between "David & Goliath"..
I assume they really want everyone to settle rather than have to assemble a pool of our peers, especially here in Southern Calli, where some people consider shooting someone as a misdemeanor in alot of cases?
To Cueball:
Hey buddy, it is very nice to see you on here too !
Thanks for the condolences and yes one day I may have to visit you in the NY...Cheesecake and soup, yes a temptation well worth the trek across the plains.....
Yes this situation is unscrupulous to say the least.
You as many others amongst the Old Jolters have been to my shows and know me personally and of my entegrity.
I felt it necessary to bring my case to this open forum in an attempt to summons the Karaoke Gods to my defense in the hopes that they see that they have made a mistake, they being this Lawsuit.
One only has to go back to any and all of my posts in the past 21 years to see how I feel about Piracy and those in my area mock and thumb themselves at me because of it, I only had the hope that "Some Day" they will be taken down.
The only thing I saw was the worst of then settling with SC for 6,000 and get access and the rights to all SC libraries, complete with MP3 downloads, heck If I knew how to transfer any of my CDG's to computer style programs, I'd be very interested to say the least but only if it would be legal...
I never trusted those who said to do a 1 to 1 copy and it would be legal.
In fact I was so out of the loop I thought 1 to 1 was burnng a copy at the excat same speed......
I have about 1,500 cdg's, I can only imagine how long that would take?
Anyways, I still believe that the powers that be would just apologize or at the very least, drop all this nonsense towards me personally, this way I can just back to my little rock..
Thanks again Cuey, tell the old group I said hello...........

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Direct TV did this same thing on a much larger scale. Might want to read the info posted by one of the main lawyers that sued DTV many times. He predicted years ago that he music industry would go this way!

California lawyer Jeffrey Wilens:

http://www.lakeshorelaw.org/uploads/8/4 ... -27-07.pdf