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NO Julie... HERE'S the problem.

As W.O.S. pointed out, Chip started this HERE (in this topic thread)!!! As Steve pointed out, this topic had absolutely nothing to do with Chip or you. Steve posted something about his plans on dealing with Nigel's comments, and then Chip posted a comment that was pure BAIT FOR A FIGHT.

I'm all for you feeling the need to jump to your Husband's defense, but don't go crying to one of the Moderators of this forum to have Steve banned when Chip started this.

AND, before you start in with Steve's history here, and what he may have posted in another topic thread (or even another forum), let me say something that Steve once said in the old JOLT forum.... (definitely not verbatum, but I'm sure I have the meaning close enough).... I don't read every single topic thread here. So, I could be totally clueless about what is said in another topic thread when it is referenced here (in the topic that I am reading).




If you really mean that, then why don't you just ignore Steve completely, instead of adding more fuel to the fire???

Because I didn't... or did you conveniently ignore the "(just an observation)" at then end of my post?


Cry all you like Troy, it was an observation that Thunder doesn't seem to have any problem being a victim.... for the very same crap he loves to dish out on others....



You want fair? Then I would request the entire thread be trashed. It's nothing more than speculation and hearsay anyway... nothing has been decided in the case of Nigel, guilty or innocent. If you want to use that same logic, then why not simply label every single person ever threatened by Sound Choice as a pirate with the same vigor you like to use against me or Nigel too? Like Athena and Skid?....

I can tell you this however, both you and Thunder (or Michael Handy, or Mick, or Simeli or whoever he calls himself today) have never had any problems with pointing your fingers at me as pirate with absolutely NO proof of anything.... EVER.... You've never provided one shred of anything even after repeated demands to prove your accusations or simply shut up. So if you want fair, then I'd suggest you be one of the first to either put up some real evidence of piracy by either me or Nigel other than "Thunder said that one night Nigel said...." crap.

It isn't productive and it isn't friendly.

So you admit to name calling and then erasing it to cover your tracks... nice.



Guess again Thunder, You're not Elvis Presley and the world or this forum didn't come to a complete stop because you were gone. The FIGHTING stopped because you weren't here stirring up crap at every turn. Even Troy was congenial without you here - or did you miss the post where he thanked Birdofsong?

Sorry, but you are not the reason that karaokescene is here and you are not the "life of party" nor does it die here without you.



You can't seem to post anything that is not some sort of attack on someone simply to stir up more crap..... stir, stir, stir,.... (yawn)

Interesting how you can spin my comment: "(just an observation)" into some direct attack on poor little innocent you....


This is the very same 8th grader mentality you like to use: claim you know something everyone else doesn't but of course never be man enough to say it yourself.

Please put on your big-boy pants and grow up.

Bait for a fight? Did you miss the "(just an observation)" in my post as well? Cue, you'd have the same problem I do with both Thunder and WOS if they had repeatedly and publicly accused you of being a pirate for over a YEAR now. No proof, no nothing just the same crap over and over again... and they'll do it to anyone. Nothing has been decided in the Nigel case, yet they've already painted him as guilty haven't they? Based on what information? NOTHING. Not even after repeated demands... he simply runs away and then comes back doing the same crap. I'm sick of it.


As far as referencing any other forum: 95% of the people on the "other forum" post here as well and they are fully aware of what these two do and what they are constantly posting. Thunder's constant mud slinging was largely responsible for the demise of the other forum.

If he wants to call me a pirate, then I'd suggest he either come up with some REAL evidence or simply shut up about it.

Is that fair enough?





There wouldn't be a fire to add fuel to in the first place if he'd stop starting them.

Chips,

You finished yet?

Just an observation! Is that sort of like parody, sarcasm or maybe even (God forbid) satire?

What a stale rant.

(Just an observation)

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No Chip.... I did not miss that comment. All I have to say on this is, (IMO) I still consider that whole post to be bait for a fight... moreso with that additional comment added (to draw more attention to it).

does this seem familiar to anyone else?

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Please to all that have had to deal with this Cr*p please use your block button for those that light your fuse....then you can have a decent place to chat pass info and dont need to be subjected to falling poo or chips of stone...kinda acts like the roof and windshield of your car......Just dont feed the trolls

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"It's deja vu' all over again!"

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Dave's not here.

Here's the difference that you don't seem to see:

When he posts information about a person he provides no (that's none, zip, zilch) proof that what he is saying is ever true. Even when he's pressed for that information. He doesn't care if it's a lie as long as (he thinks) it will make him look smarter to feed his ego. His current rant on Nigel is a perfect example. Now, it might be that this person is a pirate, but only time will tell, Thunder and Troy's repeated painting of this person as guilty with nothing as proof is simply unfair.

How hypocritical can Thunder be when he posts about Nigel with no proof, doesn't have a problem doing the same to me and when it's pointed out to him, he's suddenly some kind of poor, downtrodden victim?

When I post something, I provide proof that the information is in fact, true. Usually in the form of a pdf for which I have researched, and paid a fee to acquire. You have even downloaded and read some of these pdf files yourself.


Both troy and steve (and for other reasons, athena) have used insinuation, speculation and conjecture to simply trash anyone they want. They have insinuated that because for a great many years, that simply because I owned more than 1 system, I must somehow be a pirate or that I'm no longer in this business.

Now, here's a suggestion:

How about simply making it a rule that if you post anything that is in a negative light against another person or company, you must provide substantial and verifiable proof that what you post is the truth and not simply libelous mud slinging.

This way, if Thunder wants to post or insinuate that Nigel is a libelous pirate, then he's welcome to do so, as long as he provides the accompanying proof to back up his claim. SC's suit against Nigel is NOT proof in this case, until it has been decided.

Is that fair enough?

Or do you think he should be allowed to post whatever lies he wants about anyone he wants whenever he wants?

Chip,

It isn't even worth the effort to respond to you, I am willing to bet that no less than 20 people on this board have seen the adds that Nigel has taken out about me. I know many also saw the post he put up on his website, I know this because at least that many brought them to my attention. I have had business owners ask me about them and I have been turned down for work because of them.

This is my last response to anything posted by you or Julie so have fun!

And once again, it's meaningless and nothing more than "he said, I said"...

Whaa Whaa Whaa!

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Sounds like you need either a bottle or a diaper change?

But, you have an interesting signature Troy.... looks complementary...

(as in " a freebie", not "a compliment")

Here is the real complaint against this Gandara person in pdf format.

I can tell you that SC's complaint, paragraph 87 is in my opinion, extremely misleading to the court. And all the stuff about Clark Music in Australia makes it sound like they only sell music IN Australia TO Australians of music MADE BY Australians...not custom discs of their library worldwide.... and there was of course no mention of their short-lived downloads...

It looks like a lot of calling Nigel a big, bad, boogie-man but nothing (at this stage) is "proof or proven" at all. SC doesn't even admit to using investigators, rather "agents" and "belief" instead of proof and facts.

And what kind of allegation is this?

The case was referred to mediation because of the Local Rule 83.9b (a standard procedure in many courts, nothing special or unusual here.)

(Yes, I paid for the FACTS)....

http://dkusa.com/CHB/SCvsNigel.pdf

Poor Thunder! Imagine having someone post lies about you without any shred of evidence or proof and harass you online.
I sure hope that since you know how it feels that you would never do that to someone else.
Oh, wait. You already have. My bad.
Sorry if you don't get any sympathy from me, since you have done the exact same thing, not only to Chip and Julie, but to me as well, even going so far as to threaten to post my personal information.
I find your complaint hilarious, given those circumstances.
What comes around goes around, Thunder. You would do well to remember that and to govern yourself accordingly.
The best part of Karma is that the offender usually gets theirs without any intervention on the victim's part.
The downside: it isn't instant.

Thanks for the links, Wall. I've been seeing this name posted for some time here, but never had a clue who he was, or any other documentation. Appreciate it.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Where have I seen that before?....

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