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Spankme99
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:01 pm |
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Moonrider
You have no wits just some stupid wannabe look. BTW I owned 500 SC disks before SC came to town, they wouldn't let me show them they just wanted $6500 PERIOD. Do some homework "a-munch".
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Spankme99
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:04 pm |
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timberlea @ Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:01 pm wrote: Not to mention opening him or herself up to legal action, criminal and/or civil.
No such animal. Are you dreaming. Free speech and facts.
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Spankme99
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:06 pm |
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Moonrider @ Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:00 pm wrote: <snork> Nigel strikes again. . .
Last time he got in a battle of wits, it was with a brick.
He lost.
There's similar rants all over the website for his "dj" company.
Which is why I am not going to waste my time with a dumba$$ like you. You have no idea what you are talking about.
10,000 disks and counting... Sue me...I dare you
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Lonman
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:10 pm |
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Huh! Nice way to introduce yourself. The way you start out isn't helping you much.
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Thunder
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:19 pm |
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I take it you are the Nigel guy that is being refered to here?
You and this Thunder guy must have been friends at one time from what you posted, because I know that even my wife has never seen every disc I have so he must have shared a lot with you.
I did notice on the Sound Choice and Chartbuster websites he is listed as a legal KJ, have you been to both the shows where he is running two systems at the same time and if so do they contain the same song list? If so report him to Sound Choice and Chartbuster from what I have heard they are harder on the cheaters who have been audited than they are on the ones that get caught the first time around.
Help me to understand is why you would go so far out of your way to slander this guy did he do something to you? Did he sell you the loaded hard drive that got you in trouble to begin with or did you catch him in bed with your girl friend? Perhaps he undercut you on a bunch of gigs, it just doesn't make good business sense to carry on that kind of vendeta.
But on the other hand I don't understand why the Thunder guy hasn't filed slander suit against you already with all this stuff you have posted on E-Bay and Craigslist, he must be a real push over.
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Thunder
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:29 pm |
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Opps I just noticed that his E-bay add has been pulled for TOS violation!
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Thunder
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:48 pm |
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Wow that didn't take him long.............. but his price came down.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0530265422
New Never Opened in original packaging!
SOUND CHOICE FOUNDATION PACK VOL.2
30 Disc Set / 450 Songs
There is no eagles disk for sell in this auction just the foundation 2 set and information to help KJ's decide whether or not to deal with SC and their tactics, this is for sale along with some history about the item.
I have heard recently that according to new laws in Australia, Sound Choice and it's sister company Clark Music (Kurt Schlep's brother or cousin) to whom SC has sold the rights to previously recorded karaoke tracks will have to shut down due to the fact that all the recording were made and liscensed for production only in the USA. This information came from a top exectutive at a major Karaoke manufacturer. This is just another way SOUND CHOICE has tried to swindle the original artists out of their rightful commisions. I noticed their websites are still up but they have broken the law before and may be waiting to get caught again! Just another way SC has tried to break the LAW.
The now out of business SC (last disk produced 2009) are afraid that what you read here will undermind there lies. I recently received this message from person posing as Kurt Schleprock. "Either give us $6500 or I may sue you based on hearsay, rumor and innuendo from the people who want your gigs(so-called investigators)".
SOUND CHOICE produced some illegal disks (One of which, the music from the Eagles, Don Henley sued them big and won easy) many years ago (The Eagles disk# SC8125). I own this disk and are getting together many other KJ's that also own this disk so we can sue SC for selling illegal disks to us. This disk is usless now because if you play the disk in a performance you are breaking the law and can be sued as well! Even if the original disk is in the machine! There were 2000 sold and estimated 1000 still on the street, if you are an owner of this disk please contact me and I will give the the name of the lawyer preparing this case against SOUND CHOICE, we estimate damages in the range of $1000 per KJ who owns and original copy of this disk. Total damages could exceed ONE MILLION DOLLARS. Kurt, your goose is cooked, Happy Holidays!
Message from sound choice;
"Do you really feel the need for another lawsuit against you!
You keep this up and you will be getting one sooner than later I have been copying and pasting every one of these that I come across, I realize you are pretty stupid but you are helping your situation.
If you hadn't tried to cover up the fact that you were running a pirtated system you wouldn't be in the mess you are in now!
Good Luck!
- simeli"
If you agree to sign the SC contract you are admitting that you are a Pirate! If you have signed it already stop pointing fingers at others, you have no credibility because you are an admitted PIRATE!
"Dear karaokefever,
Actually would appreciate any and all info you can provide. I am not a legal mind per se, but it seems to me that first they marketed these discs to professionals and then years later when their own bad decisions have left them as a failed business they pull out this "oh you cant make any money using our discs without giving us a piece". if that were so then the entire music industry would require you to lease music from them as well. We all have been dj's for a very long time doing exactly that using other people music to run our businesses,. how is it that sound choice can suddenly change the rules on use of music? It isn't even their music! Its a copy of someone else s music. it does not belong to them in the first place. They paid ( inmost cases), to be able to copy the original music ( sometimes badly) and sell those copies. I'd love to sue them for every song they put out, (& i paid for) that sucked so bad no one wants to hear it.
Not to mention for all the damn discs that included mostly trash and drivel along with one song that was popular. I think paying 22 bucks for one damn song is more than enough to last for a lifetime of use and if it wasn't then shame on them for selling it too cheap. You do not get to go back and say " hey you like that pair of pants? i want you to pay for them again! After all they are a knock off of a very chic designer and you are making money while you wear them. Oh and we don't make pants anymore so we need the money.
Ridiculous don't you think? I dont think the copyist is a protected class for intellectual property especially once they have asked for and received the money they were asking for the product.
good talking to you
Robert"
Thunder karaoke (Charlottesville's worst KJ NOW running two systems a night on one set of disks!), ran off of disks for years and I attended his shows (in pain). I knew exactly what brands of disks he had and how many (all he had was cheap junk, in "4" 100 disk binders that were not full, Zero SC, Zero!). He bought a laptop and the next day he had every single SC song, now he is the d!@# pointing fingers at everyone else! He is an admitted Pirate and now is helping to point fingers at everyone else, guilty or not! He's so full of himself that he said in an open forum that he ran a complete show using nothing but SC songs (that must have sucked since there are no new songs for the last two years, plus SC is known for having terrible renditions of country, very bad timing and half put together lyrics, many times incorrect)!
Running your shows off of a "SERVER" is legal so everyone should look into it as long as it is not streaming (I don't need one because I rarely do a karaoke show, DJing is easier, keeps more people happy, you get more respect and pays better) . Just be sure that the same song does not play at the same exact time in two places. In the contract SC makes you agree not to use a server because they know it is legal and when everyone catches on they can no longer scare you into emptying your wallets. Why have thousands of usless disks or songs that you are not able to use? Most KJ's I know have around 20,000 songs, how many do you need before you can split them into two systems? Two systems means you need 120 songs a night, MAX!
I don't have to prove I have a single disk, They have to prove I don't! This proves I have atleast 30. So I can run 30 different karaoke shows at the same time.
They want money coming in not going out. The only way they could be granted discovery would be for them to have proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. This is why coercion and threats seem to be working for them. Profits are their business and business is good! So tell your fellow KJs to read this before signing any admission of guilt to SC. If you do choose to deal with them, make them re-write the contract, too many areas where they can harass re-sue and control you forever. Remember all they want is your hard erned money!
They could care less if you make $25 a night after expenses and have $40,000 in original disks.
If they want me to stop telling the truth they can do my buy back idea, which is buy all my SC disks for $18 each and start by buying this item but I have 4 complete sets of foundations and bricks to get rid of.
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Spankme99
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:03 pm |
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DannyG2006 @ Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:07 pm wrote: The guy posting it is a known pirate. He got named in the first sweeps in va and because they did not have his correct info they had to refile.
If I am a pirate then come to one of my shows and I'll show you 1000 SC disks. I doubt I would just go out and buy 1000 disks just to avoid paying $6500. Grow a brain!
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Thunder
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:11 pm |
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Spankme99 @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:03 pm wrote: DannyG2006 @ Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:07 pm wrote: The guy posting it is a known pirate. He got named in the first sweeps in va and because they did not have his correct info they had to refile. If I am a pirate then come to one of my shows and I'll show you 1000 SC disks. I doubt I would just go out and buy 1000 disks just to avoid paying $6500. Grow a brain!
But would you spend $10,000 in an effort to avoid paying 50 or 60 thousand in a court case? It sounds like you got caught and made an effort to avoid having to face the music. I think that maybe if you hadn't made all the slanderous post you have made since you got caught that Sound Choice would have let you go through an audit, but personally I have to say after reading some of the things you have posted about them that I don't much blame them for forcing you into fighting a court battle.
You must live a very hectic and pained life!
Something I noticed in your add is the "NEW NEVER OPENED" part of it........ Just a question no inference at all........ Why as a KJ are you selling a NEW NEVER OPENED Sound Choice Foundation set? You see ever disc that I have in my system has been opened (that was so I could rip them to my system) how did you get yours ripped?
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Spankme99
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:12 pm |
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Virgin Karaoke @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:48 pm wrote: Wow that didn't take him long.............. but his price came down. .
You must live on EBAY I could'nt even edit it fast enough for the faint hearted. I have disks for sale but don't need the money. I have 3 full sets of SC foundations and bricks. I only need one! I have more than one system yes. But no one has ever had a SC track on there system unless they owned it. I don't provide music to people, I rent systems and get gigs, I pay them hefty and they buy there own music. I also only do karaoke 3 times a week the rest is something most here couldn't do "DJ". Karaoke is embarrasing and I hate more than like it. SC can suck one. I hate the fact that I have a ton of disks that I can't utilize.
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Spankme99
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:15 pm |
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Excuse me Id^ot, I offered the audit two years ago! They just want money GREED is the word. I talked extensively to Harrington and he wouldn't budge just wanted $$$$$$.
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Thunder
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:19 pm |
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Spankme99 @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:15 pm wrote: Excuse me Id^ot, I offered the audit two years ago! They just want money GREED is the word. I talked extensively to Harrington and he wouldn't budge just wanted $$$$$$.
You must really be an angry guy, perhaps you should go beat up this Thunder guy and get rid of some of that pent up frustration!
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Thunder
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:24 pm |
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Spankme99 @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:12 pm wrote: Virgin Karaoke @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:48 pm wrote: Wow that didn't take him long.............. but his price came down. . You must live on EBAY I could'nt even edit it fast enough for the faint hearted. I have disks for sale but don't need the money. I have 3 full sets of SC foundations and bricks. I only need one! I have more than one system yes. But no one has ever had a SC track on there system unless they owned it. I don't provide music to people, I rent systems and get gigs, I pay them hefty and they buy there own music. I also only do karaoke 3 times a week the rest is something most here couldn't do "DJ". Karaoke is embarrasing and I hate more than like it. SC can suck one. I hate the fact that I have a ton of disks that I can't utilize.
I cruise E-Bay all the time looking for deals so yes I am there a lot, your's was the newest listing when I opened my notifications.
Why can't you utilize this ton of disc you own?
Do you ever do gigs in the VB area, if so I will come and check out your show!
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Spankme99
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:34 pm |
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Look I am not trying to make enemys, I am not a pirate, in fact I probably have more disks than most KJ's I also have tons of money tied up in videos which is what I prefer to do "VJ", the people love to watch videos and dance. The reason I have picked on thunder is because he has first off the worst karaoke show I have ever seen and second he has spread lies about me. What I said in the first revision of the ebay add was 100% true I went to his shows and know first hand what I saw. He never owned a sing Sound Choice disk. I sang at his shows almost every week only because it's a small town and only karaoke show in town. I was putting my karaoke show together at the same time and I started buying karaoke disks in 1995 running karaoke in my home for parties every month. I had close to 200 disks before I decided to go pro and bought a set of used disks from some old guy in Powhatan va who was getting out of the biz. He sold me 450 disks for $1000 in the set was foundation set 1&2 and the 5 brick packs plus some assorted sc disks and bunches of Legends, PHM and northstar. I have been spending way too much money on karaoke disks ever since. I will not stand for being strong armed by SC.
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Spankme99
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:00 pm |
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Virgin Karaoke @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:24 pm wrote: Spankme99 @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:12 pm wrote: Virgin Karaoke @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:48 pm wrote: Wow that didn't take him long.............. but his price came down. . Why can't you utilize this ton of disc you own?
I have enough SC to run different systems if I wanted to but I refuse to let anyone use SC who performs at my shows but me. Its why I am selling off sc disks, not to save money to fight sc, I don't need one red cent for that insult.
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Thunder
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:02 pm |
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Spankme99 @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:34 pm wrote: Look I am not trying to make enemys, I am not a pirate, in fact I probably have more disks than most KJ's I also have tons of money tied up in videos which is what I prefer to do "VJ", the people love to watch videos and dance. The reason I have picked on thunder is because he has first off the worst karaoke show I have ever seen and second he has spread lies about me. What I said in the first revision of the ebay add was 100% true I went to his shows and know forst hand what I saw.
That is interesting, so you would slander a guy all over and very visabilly on the internet because he has a really bad Karaoke Show?
Which brings up another question why were you going to his karaoke show if (1) if it was so bad? (2) If he had crap for music?
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Moonrider
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:36 pm |
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Spankme99 @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:03 pm wrote: If I am a pirate then come to one of my shows and I'll show you 1000 SC disks. I doubt I would just go out and buy 1000 disks just to avoid paying $6500. Grow a brain!
Hi Nigel! There's no way to find out where your shows ARE! Scared to advertise 'em? Or did Nard's, Big Jim, Nick and the Shaner boys take the rest of your gigs from ya?
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:55 pm |
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This guy is the reason I never call them PIRATES anymore....now they are all NIGELS....and I've never met the guy....WOW I wouldnt want to be him when KARMA decides to let him reap what he has sown...
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Big Joe
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Virgin Karaoke @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:19 pm wrote: You and this Thunder guy must have been friends at one time from what you posted, because I know that even my wife has never seen every disc I have so he must have shared a lot with you. C'mon Thund....Ah, I mean Virgin Karaoke. How dumb do you think people really are?? Virgin Karaoke @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:19 pm wrote: But on the other hand I don't understand why the Thunder guy hasn't filed slander suit against you already with all this stuff you have posted on E-Bay and Craigslist, he must be a real push over.
Why don't you tell us all why you haven't....oops, sorry again, I mean why you think he hasn't.
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Lonman
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:54 pm |
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Spankme99 @ Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:15 pm wrote: Excuse me Id^ot, I offered the audit two years ago! They just want money GREED is the word. I talked extensively to Harrington and he wouldn't budge just wanted $$$$$$.
One more post like this and you may say bye bye!
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