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Absolutely amazing. A couple of pages of posts with zero informational value.

How about taking out the trash and maybe squeezing in an on-topic discussion or two?

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Where did he go?

very good question....is he on another "vacation" from the forums or maybe really on vacation. (hope he isn't ill)

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"Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain."
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"if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters."
Lee McGuffey

The sign on my favorite watering hole says:

Play nice or be gone!

If someone was given a vacation, so be it.

Be glad it was not you..

Just for the record, I graduated middleschool..

I have no desire to return..

Chip is on a 30 day.. his second..

The third one is the charm..

(Just so you all know)

For the record, I hope that he was not given a "vacation" for anything he said to or about me. If he was, I would ask that the suspension be lifted. While I believe his point of view is flawed, it should stand or fall on it own merits and not because it is suppressed. I'm a big boy and can take the heat.

Cheers to that!
If Chip is vacationing from anything he said to or about me, I will also ask for it to be lifted.

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KNOW THYSELF

There is no intention to suppress a point of view. Obviously all points of view have been heard long and hard here, without censorship. What is wanted is for people to express those points of view in a civil manner that doesn't cross the boundaries of polite conduct and which doesn't resort to confounding tactics.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

Well stated. Thank you, Jim.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Well I stand by Chip, I As a legal Operator of DJ music and karaoke agree with alot of what he says. Some of you call him Insane or whatever. The entire point is missing here. What has sound choice done to prevent future acts of piracy? I believe If one doesnt feel it necessary to Go Audit you shouldnt have to. What good would these forums be without debate? Thats why I am still here. Otherwise I would have just got bored and never had looked back. I feel the audit price not the audit is boguss. I feel sorry for those that paid it due to being scared. I invite sc to come to my home ( Including James Harrington) to look at My entire library. Hell I will even fire up some Karaoke afterwards and Drink some beer with Slept James, And whoever else wants to seek out pirates. Harrington You may PM for my Phone number I would be happy to meet with any SC rep IN PERSON. I live in the Boston Area. I dont care if I am certified, recognized for it etc.. Unless I get 125.00 in Music after I pass then only will I succumb to the fee. ( Hey retail is 100% markup would hardly be a loss). Reason I offer this is To put one more DJ as yeah he's legit, No pirate here. After all ,Isn't all this for search of pirates? Let me know if I am wrong. Offer stands for any other maunfacturer PM Me when you can stop by my Office at home. Oh I am not a fan of signing my rights away without a lawyer on my side to read it over carefully. So You can just pop by whenever to Audit my disks make sure I still have em all. Bring your fancy Light.

Is the entire point really about what the manufacturers are doing to combat future piracy?

If I am not mistaken, the entire point is that thieves are stealing music. The impact of that theft has been discussed long and hard for years.

Instead of us posing questions about what Sound Choice or any of the other manu's will do to prevent it in the future, how about discussing ways to end it now. We could even try to do it without pointing fingers, drudgung up the past, or beating up already in place methods.

There is always so much focus on what so-and-so did in the past. How the KJ's all told the manu's 10 years ago what was going to happen. How the law suits are good or bad or whatever. Piracy exists. It is a problem. That is the entire point. If it weren't for piracy, all of this back-and forth about piracy wouldn't even exists.

Piracy has to be addressed now.

-Chris

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-Chris

Chris how has it been by sc? I offered an invite, Not another source of revenue. I have been told by a competing manufacturer that they will cover my audit for free. As soon as it is in Writing that one will be done. I feel fear has consumed some people in paying sc.

Just like with an oil spill, if you don't plug the leak the clean-up becomes nearer and nearer to impossible and eventually becomes pointless.

I also believe the first step to ending piracy is to hamper the ease of distribution. Today's technology offers many solutions to protect content from piracy, but the best ones would require a level of cooperation between content providers that we're unlikely to see as long as there is more money to be made on current infringers than there is to be gained from future customers.

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Chris

think about this as any other business for a second.
if any other business was warned of impending issues with their business model and did nothing about it to the point of going out of business, it would be labled as part of the capitalistic business structure.
learn, evolve, and adapt to survive and grow.

also, any other business which ignored those signs but wanted help to fix the problem would be asked to show how they were going to prevent the same thing from happening again. not just given the help to allow the same issue to re-occur.

the argument that they were warned about it and given options to prevent this very issue from happening but ignored it is valid.

the request to know what is going to change if everyone gives a second chance is valid as well.

this is just basic business, not KJ business, not music manu business, just basic business. i think that gets missed sometimes.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

Hundreds of thousands of MP3s are pirated and downloaded every day. Doesn't affect my DJ business at all. Wanna Be DJs have been stealing music since I started in the business in 2006. Free music does not make you a professional entertainer. Maybe you need to ask yourself why pirated karaoke affects your business so much? Maybe the pirates aren't the problem after all.

Exactly. But seems I heard another very smart man say the exact same thing. Sadly, he isn't here right now.

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Birdofsong

Bump***** Here James Prolly over looked this like a disk based operator. No biggie Ooops

You're right. I did overlook it.

Just so we're clear...you are asking us to get on a plane to Boston and do a free (or net free, after music) audit for the purpose of giving you permission to conduct a media shift. But only if you look at the terms of the audit and have your lawyer review them first (which is fine, of course) and you like them.

The answer on that is going to be "no," for a couple of reasons.

First, if we send somebody up there to do your audit, it will cost about $225 in airfare; a hotel night of, say $75; meals of, say $40; and ground transportation of maybe another $40. On top of that, we have to pay the person we send their usual salary. On top of that, we have to pay for the audit equipment we use, including marking supplies (not cheap; the special ink we use costs about $40 an ounce). So even if we send someone who's relatively low on the totem pole, we're easily out $500 for this excursion.

Second, we don't generally do in-person audits in your situation anyway, at least not when we don't have a dedicated SC rep in the area. Instead, we do a remote audit, in which we take control of your laptop and examine the hard drive, and have you mark the discs (we send you a kit for that purpose).

We would do an audit in person if (a) the results of the remote audit were ambiguous, (b) we have a dedicated rep in the area, (c) we are actively conducting investigations or litigation in your area, or (d) enough area individuals requested audits that we could apportion the expense over a larger group.

Meanwhile................back on ORIGINAL TOPIC..................

In regards to Portland fallout............I continue to hear of KJ's when confronted about certs by the bar owner that they simply fold up thier tent and disappear to be replaced by a "Certified" (or so Ive been told) host.

Just learned of another one Friday night at a place I dropped papers at.....the word is travelling fast.......and not just from direct contact from SC Reps or from me dropping papers.............but word of mouth bar owner to bar owner.

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"You know that I sing the Blues and I do not suffer fools. When I'm on that silver mic, it's gonna cut ya, just like a knife"-The SWINGCAT

ok, Sounds better. I would do a group thing if it means doing it face to face etc.,... Would it still be 125.00? ( as in a group setting)

Sounds like great news for your area SwingcatKurt.

Have you put together your own material or are you dropping off the KIAA Venue Flyer?

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My statements, opinions and conclusions are based on my own personal experiences, observations, research and/or just my own $.02. I'm not a "cheerleader", but that doesn't make me a Pirate.