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Bazinga! Chris

This is not true, nor even remotely close to being true. I even encouraged the admins of this board not to ban him.

but that doesn't mean that he wasn't banned for those same opinions. I didn't say that you personally had him banned.

Are you saying they accidentally produced music without getting permission? Oops?! Chris, I don't think so many people would be focusing on the manufacturers if they weren't going after KJs who actually purchased their products when they, themselves, did not.



Then why are you here in the legalities forum? There are plenty of other helpful places for you to post.

I'm also at a loss as to why you insist on constantly talking about Chip. He hasn't been here for over a year. I am not him, nor does he dictate what I write.

The reason these topics are still here despite the fact that he isn't, is because they are relevant, and there other people besides Chip, or me for that matter, who feel that the hypocrisy of the manufacturers is unbearable. you've made it pretty clear that you don't want to hear about that, but I don't really care. We are all allowed to speak our minds and voice our opinions.

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Birdofsong

Yes, it does. He was not banned for his stance on piracy or on Sound Choice, or for any opinion he offered.

People who are apathetic are worse than people who take a stand one way or the other. They want the benefit, if there is one, with no risk.

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You can be strange but not a stranger

Sorry, poor grammar on my part. Should read more like this -

"I also take issue with people that beat up the manufacturers for something they (the people doing the beating) can't do anything about it."

Is me talking about Chip here any different that Chip talking about me on Facebook? And don't flatter yourself. I rarely bring him up except why you drive by.

The so called hypocrisy of the manufacturers impacts us all. We would all have to pull a lot of music if we did enough digging. I seriously doubt you have pulled everything from your library that you know or feel is not properly licensed by the manufacturers. You just take issue with the ones that decided to pursue action against hosts. I guess it is okay to use the product of pirate manufacturers just as long as they aren't suing hosts.

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-Chris

Please, Tim, tell us all about what you did today to stop the curse of human trafficking of young girls into the prostitution business? What did you do today to stem the tide of illegal aliens crossing the border from Mexico into the United States? Nothing? I guess they're not important enough to make it onto your radar because they don't affect you personally, huh? It's amazing how some people can have karaoke piracy at the top of their priorities list when there are so many other more important things going on in the world that could use some attention. When is the last time you posted on a bulletin about world hunger or famine in Africa?

For me, karaoke is nothing but a fun activity. I don't care one iota about Kurt's problems or your problems either, for that matter. When I go to Atlantic City to gamble; I don't investigate to make sure that the casino didn't get their playing cards from a sweat shop where children are forced to work for peanuts. I really don't care who made my sneakers either. That is the Sports Authority's problem. not mine

This isn't a human trafficking, immigration reform, world hunger, child labor forum. I post those topics on those forums. If you are interested in speaking out on those topics I suggest you seek those out and post there.

If you aren't interested in finding my opinions on those topics on those forums, feel free to shoot me a PM and I will be happy to let you know what I think about those.

Here, I discuss karaoke related matters.

You care more about karaoke than you say above. You are here. You chime in about karaoke all the time. If it is just a fun activity for you and you don't care Kurt's issues or mine, then why do you bother to challenge anyone at all?

I know why......but I will keep that opinion to myself.

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-Chris

Actually, it is. On Facebook, if Chip posts something about you, you can answer him. Here, when you post things about him, he does not have the ability to respond. It is unfair to attack him in a forum where he cannot defend himself.

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Birdofsong

true, but is it ok for the Manus to use music they did not pay for while suing us for music we DID pay for?

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

You are wrong Chris there is plenty a host can do if they decide not to support a particular manufacturer, because of the company"s questionable actions and tactics. What is the goal of the legal process manu to recover money or to force a host to buy or subscribe which amounts to the same thing. You can choose to boycott the manufacturer, and not financially support them. That is what I did if everyone did the manufacturer would either have to change their policies or go out of business. Maybe you as an individual couldn't stop them but at least you could sleep at night knowing you didn't go along with an agenda you didn't agree with.

The question is not whether other hosts have voluntarily pulled questionable material from their library, but rather whether you and other pillars of virtue have. You are the one's that want to hold all hosts to a higher standards, you are the ones that want to give the legal process manus a free hand to carry out their legal racketeering purges. In the hope that it will clear the field for you to be able to run multiple shows. It is for you to set the example if you really believe what you are posting. I have backed up what I have said by boycotting the SC's of the world do you have the courage of your convictions? I seem to remember you posted something about you would be willing to remove material from your library if some central clearing house was established to determine what needed to be removed. I doubt if you would even do it then, because you would feel that not all hosts would do the same and leave you at a business disadvantage. I doubt for example any hosts would pull the orphan brands from their library because as you know there is zero chance any of these defunct manus will come banging on their doors, anytime soon.

During the American Revolution about one third of the people supported the King, one third supported the rebellion and one third were neutral. If the rebels were captured they could be hung drawn and quartered, that was the punishment at that time for rebellion against the crown. What they did to Mel Gibson in the movie Brave Heart. When the rebels won the King supporters the Loyalists or Tories were forced to flee America for other Crown colonies or back to Britain. Since the Tories were the losing side, if they stayed property and social standing they enjoyed prior to the revolution, were taken away. Considering the risks taken by both active parts of the revolution it is no wonder one third of the people stayed on the side lines. At worst they would continue to be under Crown rule, if the rebels won they could continue in the new country that was created. What would you have done?

Simple, what I do now, I take a stand.

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You can be strange but not a stranger

That is easy to do if you know for sure what side is going to win. During times of civil war noble families protected their vast estates and wealth by having one son fighting on each side. That way no matter who won the family would continue and secure their wealth. Not everyone likes to gamble, by using this example it would be like betting the pass line and the don't pass line at the same time.

But what if they ONLY HAD 1 Son?

What Manu is doing that?

Have I been attacking Chip? I don't think so. And no, I can't answer on Facebook because 1) The forum was closed sometime ago to the public, likely so people could chatter about folks without prying eyes and 2) Chip is worth my time.

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-Chris

No, it isn't, but that isn't a fight I can do anything about. I can impact pirate hosts in my community though.

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-Chris

It might be prudent to keep in mind that, whether a person perceives someone to be right, wrong or indifferent about their business dealings, defamation of character is a chargeable CRIMINAL offense in many areas, and a CIVIL one in others...