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Well you can start with these:

1 R. v. Hufsky, [1988] 1 S.C.R. 621 Date: April 28, 1988 [Highlight Query Terms]
2 R. v. Ladouceur, [1990] 1 S.C.R. 1257 Date: May 31, 1990 [Highlight Query Terms]
3 R. v. Wilson, [1990] 1 S.C.R. 1291 Date: May 31, 1990 [Highlight Query Terms]

And you can find those and others at the Supreme Court of Canada website.

Military Police where I and my colleagues had to enforce Military law(both Canadian (Nationa Defence Act and foreign through the Visiting Forces Act, all federal law (Criminal Code, Food and Drug, Narcotics, Customs, etc), provincial (Motor Vehicle, Liquor, etc,), Municipal (by-laws, noise, parking, etc). In my case I worked in five different provinces and probably at least 20 different municipalities.

So I have worked both sides of the street so to speak, as an MP for the Crown Prosecutor and Judge Advocate General and as a private investigator for defence attorneys. I have investigated everything from homicides, impaireds, drugs, frauds, thefts, etc. Did regular police patrols, investigations, field. And have over 30 years experience.

Now, what are your qualifications.

Do Military Police go out of their way to police civilians off base, no, but they will intervene when offences occur, make arrests, hand over the subject to civilian authorities, testify in civilian court, etc, etc, etc.

Well Chip good for America. Another difference, in the US your attorney can be present while you are being questioned, not in Canada.

Diafel, in most areas bases are not just on one lot of land. They can be in several different areas which require travelling on civilian property and therefore interaction with civilians. Further in some of the remoter bases, the closest backup for civilian police (usually RCMP or OPP in Ontario or SQ in Quebec is the MPs, and vice versa). Further an MPs jurisidiction transcends international boundries. Wherever a person subject to The Code of Service Discipline is, he or she comes under the MPs. And the people can be military, civilian workers, spouses and dependants (on and off base in foreign countries), civilians on base.

Also a little known fact (and I doubt the real story will ever get out), that during the Iran Hostage Crisis, it was the MPs (Canadian Embassy guards) that planned and executed a good portion of the rescue and the escape of six American diplomats.

I never said MPs would randomly pull a civilian over on civvie street. An MP who observes a criminal act will intervene, and it happens more often than not. And as I said, they will contact the civilian police to take over and if they're too busy we will affect the arrest give them their rights and cautions, investigate, and transport the perp to them and vice versa.

Though I am still awaiting your qualifications, since you asked mine and I answered.

And do not confuse civil law and criminal law.

Let's try another analogy:

Suppose I'm sitting on my front porch, and I witness my neighbor's house getting robbed. Suppose I not only don't call the cops, but wave to the robber, and tell him if he pays me 100 bucks I won't tell anyone, and I also promise that I personally will cause him no problems. He agrees, and I get paid.


Now suppose that I happen to live in a neighborhood with a high rate of robbery, and make this same deal with other robbers on a regular basis, to the point where I actually go out looking for robberies to occur, so that I can continue to make money this way.


My question:

Am I legally liable in any way? Would it be Aiding and Abetting? Would I be considered an Accessory After The fact? Would I be civilly liable as well?

If I WERE liable, would that liability increase due to my repetition of my actions?

I would assume so, but I don't know for sure. Any answers greatly appreciated.


Now, as long as I'm on the subject, another related question:

A Purely Fictional Story

Let's say that I'm a karaoke company. Let's say that I know for a fact that permission to media shift my music has never been given by the music OWNERS.

Let's pretend that I, the karaoke company, have gone out of my way to find out that a KJ has media shifted. Now let's pretend that I told that KJ that if he paid me a certain amount of money to look at his discs, I would not tell the music owners or anyone else that I had witnessed the fact that he had media shifted without the written permission of the music OWNERS- the people who CAN give permission to do so. Not only that, I would, as the karaoke company, not give him any problems either.

Now, for the purposes of my completely fictional story that has no relation to anyone living or dead, and any similarity to the same purely accidental - and no animals have been hurt in any way during this story- I ask the following:


Would I, as The Karaoke Company, be liable ( in this fictional situation) in any way? If so, Would doing the same thing repeatedly increase my liability?

Now, what are your qualifications.

I am still awaiting your qualifications, Diafel.

Though I am still awaiting your qualifications, since you asked mine and I answered.