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so why is it different to get karaoke for $50.00 as opposed to $150.00? he KNOWS it is bad ONLY because of price.

well, so much for the investigators.

Athena,
You need to understand the difference between WITH prejudice and WITHOUT prejudice:

"WithOUT Prejudice" means that SC is free to sue them AGAIN anytime they like for the same violation.

"WITH Prejudice" means that SC can NEVER sue them for trademark infringement again, period.

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It's just a "Blackeye" on the whole business. Most bars will just be done with having any Karaoke . Instead of taking a chance with anyone it just not worth the hassle. Although I can understand the reason for Sound Choice doing this , the best thing anyone can do is not have any Sound Choice on their library ( although they are the best) and just avoid the hassle. You can be a legit KJ but once these people start sending out nasty letters bar owners run scared. We can argue this and that and one on one but today with the way business is the last thing you need is to spend money trying to defend yourself. The KJ's and the industry should just boycott Sound Choice and not buy their products as well for all the bad blood they are creating in the industry. The word in Florida is that Karaoke is going down thanks to SC.

The KJ's and the industry should just boycott Sound Choice and not buy their products as well for all the bad blood they are creating in the industry. The word in Florida is that Karaoke is going down thanks to SC.

That is the kind of statement I'd expect would come from the pirate KJ's attempting to discredit and pass blame to an entity that is a threat to their operation.

Not at all unlike the way criminals have labeled those who do the right thing as "snitches" and made them out to be the undesirables of society.

That is the kind of statement I'd expect would come from the pirate KJ's attempting to discredit and pass blame to an entity that is a threat to their operation.

Not at all unlike the way criminals have labeled those who do the right thing as "snitches" and made them out to be the undesirables of society.

So Murray, is your suggestion if you have SC tracks on a computer, to simply continue along using them until they eventually sue you for trademark infringement, or go back to lugging your discs around? Because your statement is an easy one to make from Alberta since we've not seen a single lawsuit in your area.

(Don't suggest to submit to a vendor audit - it's out of the question with me.)

What is your suggestion?

How could you trust but verify?

Didn't you indicate in the past that you had simply removed SC from your library?

Moonrider ...I do not have a pacer account but in reading each of the cases filed that have been posted I can not find a Michael Davis listed....is it possible a person was listed as a John Doe and later identified as Michael Davis (a common name) and they found the wrong Michael Davis ? hence the dismissal without prejudice or maybe just like we did he requested and passed an audit.....with so little info it is hard to say.

http://dockets.justia.com/search?query=slep-tone Im named in the October 22.

was my mistake my own fault and to be truthful it wasnt even my Hard drive but whats done is done. they sent me a letter of intent.
The next day I wrote a check for $6900.00 and they sent me the Gem series. Ive had many talks with SC and The Harringtons. I run a hard drive with only the gem series and the few thousand other songs Have on Disc.



Im more into Producing my MrOctober show's and other events than doing Karaoke. I only host one weekly show and do an every other week show somewhere else. My money comes from the non karaoke stuff. 4 hours of Karaoke =$125.00 I can make that in one hour singing at a nursing home and four times that doing a MrOctober show.
actually Im expecting a call from Michael Finch from SC this morning to get my link right on their sight.

by the way the guy they sent out to bust me couldnt sing worth a darn


edit... just a side note.. another KJ here in Gainesville said anyone who paid was a fool he told SC to F off in october. I heard last week the sherrif came into their show and served them papers. wonder if it was SC papers.

Ive had nothing but good response's from the people at soundChoice and the Harrington's and feel I got a fair deal on the Gem series.
with all the different suits against IP and Music in general its great to know I dont need to worry about anything.

if not we will pass them to the other legit KJ's in our area( 1 Is getting his audit within 2 weeks the other 2 are disc based) we all agreed to a minimum rate .....so someone legal will be making higher rates....or the bars will be doing without karaoke

As I posted in another thread:Are you aware that this is horizontal price fixing, a federal felony offense?

Having a uniform minimum price scale is not price fixing, if that were so then every doctor, lawyer, auto mechanic, car salesman, contractor, union, bar owner, even the federal and state governments would be guilty of it.

As I posted in another thread:Are you aware that this is horizontal price fixing, a federal felony offense?

Yeah i'd have to disagree as well. This is no different than a company setting a bottom line price they'd do a show for. I know I won't do a show unless I get a certain amount.

If I see a trend where pirates are starting to charge more (or getting out of the business), then i'd be tempted to raise my price as well.

Having a uniform minimum price scale is not price fixing, if that were so then every doctor, lawyer, auto mechanic, car salesman, contractor, union, bar owner, even the federal and state governments would be guilty of it.

LIKE no we are just turning the tables on the pirates......within a year hopefully 50% of venues will no longer be offering karaoke and the other 50% be making $$$ again like they were pre pirate eruption...and if we are lucky our rate will go up even more to a proper rate......its gonna be great to be able to pick and choose venues again

Price Fixing

Price fixing is an agreement among competitors to raise, fix, or otherwise maintain the price at which their goods or services are sold. It is not necessary that the competitors agree to charge exactly the same price, or that every competitor in a given industry join the conspiracy. Price fixing can take many forms, and any agreement that restricts price competition violates the law. Other examples of price-fixing agreements include those to:

Establish or adhere to price discounts.

Hold prices firm.

Eliminate or reduce discounts.

Adopt a standard formula for computing prices.

Maintain certain price differentials between different types, sizes, or quantities of products.

Adhere to a minimum fee or price schedule.

Fix credit terms.
Not advertise prices.

In many cases, participants in a price-fixing conspiracy also establish some type of policing mechanism to make sure that everyone adheres to the agreement.