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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:08 pm 
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My policy: No burns.

My solution to a customer's request to play an original mfr's disc... yes, absolutely.

I'll snap a picture of the disc with my phone or camera (auto time/date stamped) and store it with the other images from that show.

I use a separate, software player to play their CDG disc directly so that ripping the track is not required.

I'm 1:1 and in the unlikely event that I'd be investigated and during that investigation I would actually play a disc from a customer, I believe that the image would support my credibility with regard to the track in question. I'm believable, very convincing, trust me. :lol:

Suffice to say, that the likelihood of someone handing me an SC disc that I don't already own or a track that I haven't already added is getting smaller and smaller as time passes. Until they resume production...

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earthling12357 wrote:
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What I said applies ONLY to burns. If a customer brings in an original disc, have at it. Playing from original media is ALWAYS OK. If you are going to play from burns, you should take reasonable steps to protect yourself.


When I have at it with a customer's original disc that is not in my inventory, witnessed by an investigator, there will be no way to distinguish it from a burned disc six months later in audit without the assistance of a clairvoyant.
All discs must be treated the same.


I don't need to distinguish it from a burned disc in that scenario, because your hard drive will provide me with other indicia to rule out the other forms of piracy that could explain this--if all you are doing is playing the occasional customer disc.

If you are reasonably close with 1:1, then it will not be a problem--even if it takes you over 2% variance, which is highly unlikely anyway.

If my investigator stays 2 hours, sees you play 20 tracks, sees no one bringing discs up to you, and 15 of the tracks you played appear nowhere in your disc collection or your hard drive, then you've got a problem.

All of this is likely academic anyway. I've yet to see anyone for whom the use of an occasional patron-provided burn was the sole reason for maintaining a suit. Technically, it could subject you to liability. But if that's the only thing against you in an otherwise solid inspection, well, there is a Latin maxim--de minimis non curat lex--which means, roughly, that the law disregards trifling offenses. If you keep a log, or you only play originals, then you really have nothing to worry about.


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Using the pythagorean theory, modus ponens, logic, and a few mathmatical calculations, the odds of playing a customer's disc, burnt or original, and having any legal consequences from doing so, is such a tiny fraction, a probability expert would call the chances nil........ :)
The real reason a KJ will not play a customer's disc.....and the #1 answer in America is....................................
..............they just don't want to..... :lol:


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