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mckyj57
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:57 pm |
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earthling12357 wrote: If you gamble using the client's money, does the client get credited for the winnings? Winnings? What are those?
_________________ [color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color] Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
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timberlea
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:47 pm |
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Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2002 12:41 pm Posts: 4094 Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada Been Liked: 309 times
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Exactly, but in the unlikely event I win, it is credited to the client's bill.
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cornbread
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:00 am |
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Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:51 pm Posts: 21 Been Liked: 0 time
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Look i can smell a fake a mile away and all... but this PI was about as bad as a flamboyant Gay guy wearing a bright pink mini tanktop, trying to act straight... He should have been sportin' the magnum p.i. stash. (was wearing hawaian shirts...but that's common with older people in FL)
If this is the level of people hired to do this work, i might as well start pirating the (@$%!) myself for a lil cash on the side!
Ghar be ye needin' a Sound choice, matey? Maby i'll even change facebook to the pirate language.
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JimHarrington
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:32 am |
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cornbread wrote: Look i can smell a fake a mile away and all... but this PI was about as bad as a flamboyant Gay guy wearing a bright pink mini tanktop, trying to act straight... He should have been sportin' the magnum p.i. stash. (was wearing hawaian shirts...but that's common with older people in FL)
If this is the level of people hired to do this work, i might as well start pirating the <span style=font-size:10px><i>(@$%&#!)</i></span> myself for a lil cash on the side!
Ghar be ye needin' a Sound choice, matey? Maby i'll even change facebook to the pirate language. Florida is in my area of responsibility, but we have not had an investigative team active there this week. Maybe one of the other manus was doing some field work.
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ripman8
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:49 am |
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cornbread wrote: Look i can smell a fake a mile away and all... but this PI was about as bad as a flamboyant Gay guy wearing a bright pink mini tanktop, trying to act straight... He should have been sportin' the magnum p.i. stash. (was wearing hawaian shirts...but that's common with older people in FL)
If this is the level of people hired to do this work, i might as well start pirating the <span style=font-size:10px><i>(@$%&#!)</i></span> myself for a lil cash on the side!
Ghar be ye needin' a Sound choice, matey? Maby i'll even change facebook to the pirate language. lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll I wear Hawaiian shirts, my daughter lives in Hawaii. My nephew is gay, I've never seen him wear a bright pink mini tanktop. You are generalizing people and I don't see where this adds to the discussion personally.
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kjathena
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:56 pm |
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ok guys .....I have had no less than 5 KJ's call me and state an investigator had shown up at their shows in the last 2 weeks....I can assure you that no SC investigators were in this area (they take vacations ect too) I have not received info about possible CB investigations but they seem to be hitting other areas. I personally ran into someone "playing investigator" at one of our shows...He stuck out like a sore thumb. It appears that there are some out there getting jollys out of playing spy......just cover your behinds by remaining legal and whatever you do dont give them a cent (I seem to recall a fake PI asking for cash to avoid a suit somewhere in CA....cant locate the thread but it was here on KS)
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:51 pm |
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Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:12 pm Posts: 5046 Been Liked: 334 times
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HarringtonLaw wrote: For the record, my investigators are authorized and encouraged to have a beer or two while investigating--and, if appropriate, to order food. Not enough alcohol to impair them, but enough that they don't stick out. Helpful hint: Try talking someone who already goes to the show ( if you can) into helping you out.. If the place is a local watering hole, everyone already knows everyone, a complete stranger being the only one to ask for an SC track would be a bit of a sore thumb too. Unbelievable.... I also note that while you have replied since my last post, you neither commented on the two hosts that Paradigm brough up that you were going to check on and explain awhile back, nor have you explained why you think I am wrong in claiming that the owners/publishers of music have the ultimate say in said music's/lyrics's use.
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Cueball
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:54 am |
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Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2001 6:55 pm Posts: 4433 Location: New York City Been Liked: 757 times
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HarringtonLaw wrote: For the record, my investigators are authorized and encouraged to have a beer or two while investigating--and, if appropriate, to order food. Not enough alcohol to impair them, but enough that they don't stick out. JoeChartreuse wrote: Helpful hint: Try talking someone who already goes to the show ( if you can) into helping you out.. If the place is a local watering hole, everyone already knows everyone, a complete stranger being the only one to ask for an SC track would be a bit of a sore thumb too. Unbelievable.... Joe, that's not necessarily true. If that were the case, I could be mistaken for a PI. I like to go out to new shows every so often (and I even travel to my neighboring states (NJ and PA) to do so). Think back to when I came to your show. From what I remember, the crowd looked like a small intimate group of Regulars, and I was the only stranger there. I'm sure I stuck out. And, then (when you were walking around and handing out your song books), I asked you if you accepted personal discs (which you said "Yes" to). Until you saw my name on my disc, you didn't know who I was (and your reaction was classic when realization set in as to my identity). Now, had you told me that you were PC based only, I would have started to look through your books for songs that I would have sung from my discs, and then I would have started to ask you which Manus they were on. The chances are pretty good that I would've ask for a SC version of a song (since 1/3 of the songs on my personal discs are SC renditions). I wouldn't have handed up a song-slip yet, so you wouldn't have known my name. Now here's a perfect question to ask you, because this IS based on your experiences... Would that make/have made me suspect?
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timberlea
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:40 am |
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Cuey, you're always suspect. . You know people never go to new bars. It never happens.
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jdmeister
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:41 am |
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timberlea wrote: Exactly, but in the unlikely event I win, it is credited to the client's bill. So, Tim.. They ever ask you to investigate massage parlors? And how would you credit the customers account?
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timberlea
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:51 pm |
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It all depends on how cute she is. .
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:55 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:24 pm Posts: 5107 Location: Phoenix Az Been Liked: 1279 times
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jdmeister wrote: So, Tim.. They ever ask you to investigate massage parlors? And how would you credit the customers account? is there some reason all your paperwork is sticky?
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cornbread
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:30 pm |
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Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:51 pm Posts: 21 Been Liked: 0 time
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ripman8 wrote: cornbread wrote: Look i can smell a fake a mile away and all... but this PI was about as bad as a flamboyant Gay guy wearing a bright pink mini tanktop, trying to act straight... He should have been sportin' the magnum p.i. stash. (was wearing hawaian shirts...but that's common with older people in FL)
If this is the level of people hired to do this work, i might as well start pirating the <span style=font-size:10px><i>(@$%&#!)</i></span> myself for a lil cash on the side!
Ghar be ye needin' a Sound choice, matey? Maby i'll even change facebook to the pirate language. lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll I wear Hawaiian shirts, my daughter lives in Hawaii. My nephew is gay, I've never seen him wear a bright pink mini tanktop. You are generalizing people and I don't see where this adds to the discussion personally. sorry, just lightening the mood a bit... generalization is something the majority understands, (sadly)... but the comment is about as rediculous as the attempts at KJ's so i figured it somewhat relevant.
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cornbread
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:40 pm |
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Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:51 pm Posts: 21 Been Liked: 0 time
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as far as the investigator thing... why would you say there has been no investigators? that makes no sense... whatever they were i must not have been much of an issue for them... i think i played all different mfg's that night to see a reaction... but his conversation was about SC... no other brands.
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:09 am |
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Cue, you make me smile. Cue is being kind. The show in question had "intimate Regulars" because it was one of 3 that I actually failed at ( inthe decades that I've been doing this. Yup, ain't no such thing as "perfect"). In this case, the venue was just about to fail itself ( and closed it's doors a month later) and also- being a bit snobby- wanted the money from karaoke, but didn't want anyone to know it was there. Iwasn't allowed to promote, and they certainly didn't .. A mistake to take on in the first place, but the credit for the rror has to go to me. I thank Cue for his kind description.. Cue, remember that you came before all the SC junk started. On top of that you WERE carrying your own discs- many of which were NOT SC. You stayed the night- which I have yet to hear or see an SC type person doing. Also, I read people. I never would have suspected you of anything. You were there for fun, and maybe for a little Joe Chartreuse shock value... BTW- Cue is probably one of the coolest, most eclectic ( I mean he has some truly.....um,...unique... songs) singers around. Also a LOT of fun to listen to! To your original question: It's not JUST a complete stranger requesting SC, but their ensuing actions that give them away. On the other hand, in the current climate, it IS a strong indicator. However,in the case in question, this same person was confirmed at a later date.
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c. staley
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:24 am |
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Cueball,
You will always stick out.... you are a walking tree.... the rest of us look like Munchkins next to you....
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Wall Of Sound
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:55 am |
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JoeChartreuse wrote: HarringtonLaw wrote: Paradigm Karaoke wrote: woah, pull back a bit Harrington, the investigation question is still open. take Darci Blackford. she was on the same case with Red Onion and John Pavkovich. apparently, it was investigated that Darci Blackford was running her karaoke business, Full Moon Session, at Red onion. when she was fired from there, John and Red Onion were dropped from the case. however............... Darci never ran at Red Onion, John Pavkovich did and still does (remember from earlier threads....thats the owners husband) John is still running the same show at red onion with the same 140,00+ track drive and because somebody that never worked there is not working there now, they are dropped from the case. no one ever saw Darci running her show at Red Onion. No one saw John running his show at another venue (as was stated in the suit) Darci did not get fired from Red Onion (Never worked there) what kind of investigation is that? That's not my case, and not my investigation, so I don't have any firsthand knowledge of that case. SC does have other attorneys, who may have their own way of running things. The investigator who oversees that area is a licensed PI with decades of experience, so I'm going to rely on his investigation rather than secondhand information about what interested defendants may have said, but it is possible that the investigator made a mistake. Uh huh. This would be fine, except that when these particular cases came up on the forum a month or two ago you said the same thing, but added that you would check into them.. It appears that Harrington did look into it & discovered that these defendants were not ones named in the Arizona suit filed by his office but by another attorney, Sean Kealii Enos of Schmeiser Olsen & Watts LLP. http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/trad ... h/summary/Harrington would have no business commenting on this case & I would suggest that you contact Schmeiser Olsen & Watts LLP for your answers. Here is their website: http://www.iplawusa.com/
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Cueball
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:24 am |
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c. staley wrote: Cueball,
You will always stick out.... you are a walking tree.... the rest of us look like Munchkins next to you.... You should meet Tim Duffield some time.
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