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Lets take SC out of the equation completely, hypothetically IF a law was passed and said that kj's CANNOT use computer shifted media from ANY manu, now would any of you continue your business with original discs (provided you do have them) or just fold up shop?

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I'd buy a Madboy player and still have access to the GEM series. Had one before it got stolen on me and tested the gem series and it worked perfectly.

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I wouldn't be too happy about it, but I'd continue the show, just hook up the cdg player to the laptop via video capture device, and run it through Compuhost. Wouldn't be as fast, but it would still work. I don't think the singers would notice the difference, but we would. Right now, I'm able to run the show alone, while my better half socializes with the crowd, but I think she'd probably have to help pull discs. At least until I got used to it.

Rosario

I wouldn't be happy about it.

I'd probably do the same thing... My old CAVS player plays MP3+G so I'd be able to continue to use CompuHost and the Remote Request Server/Kiosk.

I'd have to build two trunks to carry the 20 media cases containing the CD+G's, but they are well organized and I did run with discs for a couple of years when I started.

I could set up a set up an array of CD drives and by keeping a buffer of 2 or more discs queued, my singers/patrons wouldn't notice much difference in the operation of the show.

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Never the same show twice!

If i had to, i would use discs. Most people around here still do anyway because of the Karaoke store here that has been cracking down, turning people in and reporting them etc.

Interestingly enough i just bought a madboy a week ago, so if I got another gig, i could use the gem series too

This brings us to a central question I have been asking, is there some way to simplify the whole procedure of shifting? Earlier before I found out that a blanket license approach, will not work here like they have in Britain and Canada to allow shifting material. Since it seems the various manus want to enforce their own rules on an individual basis, is there some way to get each that you wish to do business with, merely charge a fee to allow the shifting of the product? Say what ever they charge for the audit. At least it might make more sense to the host, since they are being asked to pay extra for something they feel they own. They will be paying for something they don't own the right to publicly display the trademark logo. At least it is stated they don't own since this whole question has never gone to a jury trial yet!

Ok then call the audit fee a 'blanket' fee?

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Right... the audit fee requires verification to pass the audit.

A blanket fee as suggested requires no verification.

The fee is for permission to shift and the time it takes to verify what you are being given permission to shift currently (what you already own) and what you may shift from a particular brand in the future.

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Never the same show twice!

I don't really have a problem with paying for the right to media shift, but what I do have a problem with is even if I went thru soundchoice, stellar and chartbuster it STILL doesn't cover everything I own.

I want to pay ONE fee and be done with it.

-James

What i find really stupid and slightly ironic tho is that I had started to write all the NA karaoke companies since around 1999 BEGGING to pay a fee to shift their content. After ten years of phone calls, emails and letters, NONE of them bothered to reply save Tony from Stellar, and he simply told me they don't have the right to grant permission for the whole track *song + lyrics*

When i sent an email to Zoom two years ago, i got a reply back within a WEEK and they basically told me "We don't care, as long as you have the original disc." then cautioned me that i would still have to follow whatever rules were in place in Canada and that any risk from shifting was my own responsibilty..

Now if only everyone else had been so forthright in the beginning.

-James

Absolutely NO effect on me- see my sig. Happy Luddite

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SC in my opinion would gain more from the shifting fee than they ever will get from the audit process, which many hosts object to. It would narrow the field since they would only be after the hosts that have not had an audit or bothered to pay the fee. It is not a true blanket fee since it does not cover other manus product, and cannot be applied to all SC material you might have in your library. Since some of that material was not properly licensed by SC in the first place.

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