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Short answer: Yes.

Longer answer: Yes, but some of the royalties will be coming to me.

Detailed explanation:

A "cover" recording is held to be a unique work in itself once it's done, but there are some differences.

Let's take a fairly well known cover tune for an example . . . say "A Little Help From My Friends" by the Beatles. Joe Cocker had a pretty big hit with it too. Here's how things work out.

Publishing rights (melody and lyrics) go to John Lennon and Paul McCartney as co-writers of the song.

Performance royalties go to all four of the Beatles for the original recording.

Joe Cocker decides he wants to record a cover. He purchases a mechanical license to record his own version. Remember, this can be done through Harry Fox Agency, or directly from the writers.

Performance royalties for the new recording belong to Joe. The publishing royalties (even for the new arrangement - it's still their melody and lyrics) still go to John and Paul.

BMI would collect performance fees for the NEW recording for Joe, and performance fees for the original go to the Beatles (they're both BMI members).

Joe is free to sell, stream or give away copies of HIS cover version. It's considered his work.

If Joe decides he wants to make a karaoke version of HIS cover, then he needs to purchase a license to display the lyrics from John and Paul(that's part of the publishing). The sync license he grants to himself for free - it's his sound recording that the video display of lyrics is being synchronized to.

Once again, this is considered a unique work in itself and all of the above applies.

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Dave's not here.

Chip, your ignorance is coming through strong. That would be BOTH civilian and military prosecutors and judges. In the way of training, after one completes basic training, one goes to the CMPA for six months for police training, learning everything that civilian police learn plus military requirements.

BTW Chip when did you become an expert on police training, military or civilian. What are YOUR qualifications?

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You can be strange but not a stranger

timberlea wrote:

Chip, your ignorance is coming through strong. That would be BOTH civilian and military prosecutors and judges. In the way of training, after one completes basic training, one goes to the CMPA for six months for police training, learning everything that civilian police learn plus military requirements.

BTW Chip when did you become an expert on police training, military or civilian. What are YOUR qualifications?

Qualifications for what?

While my "qualifications" for anything specific is none of your concern, suffice it to say that work in the legal field that includes municipal, county, state and FEDERAL cases. This includes a practical knowledge of state and federal rules and procedures.

So when you start spreading misinformation as though it's some sort of universal gospel when you're using Canadian law as a measuring stick, (to use your phrase above) it's a pretty strong indicator of your ignorance on the subject matter.

There are only 13 other people in this state that are "certified" to do what it is that I do. And, as you challenged me earlier: You figure it out.

And, to restate your question: "When did you become an expert on U.S. and Michigan law?"

The door swings both ways.

MtnKaraoke wrote:

"suffice it to say that work in the legal field that includes municipal, county, state and FEDERAL cases."

Without any credentials? Sounds to me like you were/are property of the state of Michigan, i.e. a convict.

Then you should have no problems locating that record would you?

Obviously you missed the credentials:

Yes, it's a real certification that requires education, multiple levels of knowledge testing - including federal procedures and rules - and practical knowledge and skills testing. Unlike the karaoke manufacturer's "certification" which is nothing more than a proof-of-purchase.

You would think "certified" credentials of whatever would be easy to find in a google search in his state considering there are only 13 of them!





Maybe Chip is a plumber. You need to know code to do that.

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"Just Say NO, To Justin Bieber & His Beatle Haircut"

Yawn...

But then again taking legal shorthand can be challenging since legalese is so confusing to start with even when it's written completely out! But then again it's easy when you use audio or video recording these days.

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"Just Say NO, To Justin Bieber & His Beatle Haircut"

Well I wouldn't worry about our court secretary.

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You can be strange but not a stranger

Wow, Timberlea. For a minute I thought Thunder was back.

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Birdofsong

I expected nothing less. Incorrect, but still nothing less.

Knock it off all!!!

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Birdofsong

Care to direct that to the flamers instead of lumping us all together?

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Birdofsong

Happy one month anniversary.

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

Um, no. I- the karaoke company- may have RECORDED it, but I do not OWN the rights to it, nor do I have the right to grant you permission to media shift. You might check the sites of SC, CB, and others, and they will tell you the same thing. The ONLY thing they can do is say that they MAY not sue you.

That being said, if you- especially you, Paradigm, as I respect your intelligence- would kindly give your opinion in regard to my scenarios as laid out, I would appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

....And that there is the biggie. It's not the music, it's the lyrics. Cover or not, these remain the property and under the auspices of the ORIGINAL OWNER.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

x2 Knock this crap off.. Stay on topic..