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simpmech
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:39 pm |
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Update to this thread.
As stated earlier there have been some "issues" as with anything new. It would seem that all of the problems/glitches I was experiencing they have corrected at this point. Customer service between Kjams and Chartbuster has been phenomenal! My hats off to both teams.
I have ran multiple "mock" runs and am very pleased with how it works. I have a rather large gig this Saturday and plan on putting the new streaming technology to the test.
My average Cache time is 5-10 seconds tops. After song loads I have had no troubles at all. You can add as many songs to as many singers just as if it was in your own library. Only thing is, only one song will cache at a time at this point. But it starts automatically as the rotation moves forward. And as stated, very fast times. I am working wireless and trying to get as close to gig scenario as possible. I will post more after this weekends run
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simpmech
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:38 am |
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Had first show last night and used Chartbuster streaming service. It worked great. I printed one song book from their complete library and used orange paper for the song slips. (so we would know it was from the streaming library ID and not from our normal library to avoid confusion). I have to say, adding the 12k plus songs into our arsenal was a great feeling. People all night were telling us we had the best song selection by far (between our normal CD+G's and this addition). In the future I will be figuring out a way to add our songs into this song book and not have duplicates etc. But for now, I am wore out and taking a break  . Anyway, just wanted to let anyone interested know it does work great.
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Wall Of Sound
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:41 am |
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simpmech wrote: Had first show last night and used Chartbuster streaming service. It worked great. I printed one song book from their complete library and used orange paper for the song slips. (so we would know it was from the streaming library ID and not from our normal library to avoid confusion). I have to say, adding the 12k plus songs into our arsenal was a great feeling. People all night were telling us we had the best song selection by far (between our normal CD+G's and this addition). In the future I will be figuring out a way to add our songs into this song book and not have duplicates etc. But for now, I am wore out and taking a break . Anyway, just wanted to let anyone interested know it does work great. Awesome that it worked! I'm sure that in the event any problems occur with this service, you will let us know keeping it fair & balanced. Thanks for the updates!
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simpmech
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:02 pm |
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Absolutely I will. As I have said earlier, there were PLENTY of issues, but so far they have addressed them and it seems to be ok.
A few things I would like to see done but I will keep on them in the future (just some things to make it easier etc).
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:53 pm |
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TroyVnd27 wrote: http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/jun/17/no-headline---061711carly/?cid=Facebook
Wow. Chartbuster is really sticking it to the legitimate KJs now.
We've been subjected to pirates who enter our markets and drive down the price of karaoke. We've joined in the fight against these pirates. Now, CB is making it easier for any Joe Blow to get into the business. With their MediaPro hard drive and now the subscription service, CB can put anyone into business for a fraction of what it cost me (and every other legitimate KJ).
What I see happening, other than increased legal competition, is more bars going to DYI karaoke where they put together their own sound system and run their own karaoke. Why? Because the savvy ones are going to realize that they don't have to spend many thousands of dollars to do their own karaoke. Less than $1,000 in sound equipment will get them started.
Overall, the money that we get for karaoke is going to go down in the coming years. Get ready for it because its coming. The HD is not all the songs unlocked so the new kj has access to everything by CB. The kj still has to pay for the songs. The HD is a great thing to add the songs we need. I personally don't see it eroding our market to the bottom. It simply allowes me to have the songs my customers want and I don't rely on unreliable broadband. As for the streaming service, the songs being streamed ar far less quality than the actul mp3g file we'd use in an actual show.
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simpmech wrote: Had first show last night and used Chartbuster streaming service. It worked great. I printed one song book from their complete library and used orange paper for the song slips. (so we would know it was from the streaming library ID and not from our normal library to avoid confusion). I have to say, adding the 12k plus songs into our arsenal was a great feeling. People all night were telling us we had the best song selection by far (between our normal CD+G's and this addition). In the future I will be figuring out a way to add our songs into this song book and not have duplicates etc. But for now, I am wore out and taking a break . Anyway, just wanted to let anyone interested know it does work great. But do you have backup if the internet is down?
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simpmech
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:29 pm |
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Yes, we have our library of 8500+ songs from our CDG's. I put both books out last night but told everyone I wanted to stream the songs as much as possible to see how it worked. As I said earlier, last night was a positive for the service. AND......as far as the quality being under par......you are seriously mistaken.....playing the same song from our CDG and replaying via broadband .....not noticable to the ear, and the video is crystal clear too. It's a great way to offer more songs without breaking the bank
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c. staley
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:54 pm |
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simpmech wrote: Questions were asked on songs stopping mid way do to buffering. This is not the case, the songs cache 100% before you play them. Once done, you can stream it and I honestly can say it is Charbuster quality. Speaking only from a programmer's point of view, if it is "cached" then it can be "captured."
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c. staley wrote: simpmech wrote: Questions were asked on songs stopping mid way do to buffering. This is not the case, the songs cache 100% before you play them. Once done, you can stream it and I honestly can say it is Charbuster quality. Speaking only from a programmer's point of view, if it is "cached" then it can be "captured." So much for "1:1" for CB. Cached or not, if it can be streamed it can be snagged. Easier piracy than even regular downloads- can be done on a smart phone. Yeah, I know, a secure transmission. Right. Brilliant. Years ago when use of PCs loaded with MP3s was just starting, I posted in several forums how this would generate a HUGE leap in piracy. I was called Luddite and a backward thinker. OH LOOK! ANOTHER forum with a subforum dedicated to piracy! Say!, there's so much piracy that the mfrs. now even care! Gee, what a surprise.... Streaming just makes a bad thing worse. Yes, CB will collect some funds in the VERY short run, while anyone with Wi-Fi steals them blind. Yup, I know....the Luddite speaks. Just remember, you heard it here first... Shipmech, I assume your "CDGs" are MP3 discs?
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Maybe CB is setting up to nail pirates to the wall. If one steals by capturing the stream, which has a real cheap monthly fee, no 1:1 exists or receipt for said tracks.
I've heard that CB isn't even going to offer low settlements with content in exchange but ask for the highest rewards on trademark infringement with no songs given to the accused.
Another money making business model perhaps?
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:47 am |
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Wall Of Sound wrote: Maybe CB is setting up to nail pirates to the wall. If one steals by capturing the stream, which has a real cheap monthly fee, no 1:1 exists or receipt for said tracks.
I've heard that CB isn't even going to offer low settlements with content in exchange but ask for the highest rewards on trademark infringement with no songs given to the accused.
Another money making business model perhaps? All speculation. yawn....
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simpmech
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:58 am |
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@ Staley, all of my disc are CD+G original disc. We have everything from the old "sweet Georgia brown" to fasttrax, SC and CB.
We are 1:1. I too have spent thousands on music and equipment like everyone here. Everyone is definitely entitled to his or her own opinion on this subject, but like it or not, it is available. You may be right...it might be short lived, who knows? But, while it is here I am going to do my best to take advantage of it and make my business more appealing than johnny's down the street.
Chartbuster has made it legal for us to use this in a professional show, made it affordable and its a great way to compliment your already growing library.
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Wall Of Sound wrote: Maybe CB is setting up to nail pirates to the wall. If one steals by capturing the stream, which has a real cheap monthly fee, no 1:1 exists or receipt for said tracks.
I've heard that CB isn't even going to offer low settlements with content in exchange but ask for the highest rewards on trademark infringement with no songs given to the accused.
Another money making business model perhaps? Maybe, but if they won't take discount settlements, then maybe a few pirates might actually BE put out of business. As long as they investigate and get actual facts in advance, I have no problem with that...
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