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Author: | ertaboy356b [ Sat May 05, 2007 6:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
Ever saw those Karaoke with over 1000 songs... I was just wonderin' how do they make that thing... I was thinking that it was a bunch of MIDI files.. |
Author: | Lonman [ Sat May 05, 2007 10:56 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
ertaboy356b @ Sat May 05, 2007 6:52 am wrote: Ever saw those Karaoke with over 1000 songs... I was just wonderin' how do they make that thing...
I was thinking that it was a bunch of MIDI files.. Assuming you mean "Ever saw those karaoke DISCS WITH over 1000 songs"? You are probably referring to the S-CDG which I believe - could be mistaken - CAVS makes the only players for these. They are basically a bunch of mp3g files - not midi - on a DVD. Cool in concept, but 1 scratch on the disc, a good chunk of your library is wiped out! |
Author: | ertaboy356b [ Sat May 05, 2007 8:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
I've just seen a tutorial on how to make S-CDG.. I was wonderin, how can I make a .mcg file??? |
Author: | MorganLeFey [ Sun May 06, 2007 12:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
cavs supply the software to enable you to, but again unless you have a cavs player they wont play |
Author: | knightshow [ Sun May 06, 2007 2:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
SuperCDG is a CAVS entry into a DVD type of environment... NEO CD+G is a RSQ entry into the same DVD world... Both are totally proprietary... ugh! |
Author: | ertaboy356b [ Sun May 06, 2007 6:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
My friend have a CD with over 1000 songs.. His player has a dialing system use to dial the number of the song... I don't know if it is CAVS because he just bought it to someone else.. It got some weird brand, somewhat fake brand(i.e. Nike ---- Mike).. Yep somewhat altered name.. But it can play a bunch of 1000+ songs CD... |
Author: | Mike W. [ Sun May 06, 2007 11:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
ertaboy356b @ Sat May 05, 2007 8:43 pm wrote: I've just seen a tutorial on how to make S-CDG.. I was wonderin, how can I make a .mcg file???
You need a program called Encoder MCG from CAVS. CAVS has this program for sale on their website. |
Author: | ertaboy356b [ Mon May 07, 2007 6:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
Hmm.. In an approximate count, how much song will it fit into a CD-R using CAVS System( mp3 + mcg )??? |
Author: | knightshow [ Mon May 07, 2007 9:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
depends on the ripped bitrate. For standard songs, you get from 14-17 (depending on song length, etc.) For mp3+g format, they are basically from 1/5 to 1/10th the size of a standard cd+g or cd file. It's fairly common to get 70-100 songs on a cdr. |
Author: | exweedfarmer [ Mon May 07, 2007 10:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
So what's the deal here? Is the CAVs MCG format smaller or different the MP3+CDG format? Drunken inquiring minds want to know.... |
Author: | knightshow [ Mon May 07, 2007 10:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
they're essentially the same. I accidentally received the cavs disc one monthly update I got from THM... looking at the file sizes on the windows explorer was virtually the same. |
Author: | ertaboy356b [ Tue May 08, 2007 5:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
So what actually the most common disc today??? It isn't CAVS disc right?? |
Author: | knightshow [ Tue May 08, 2007 3:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
common is so relative to where you live. For Jian, who lives in the Orient, it's DVDs, done to the original music. For us, the standard STILL is cd+g discs... although more and more are leaning towarsd buying in compressed formats. With the legality issues we're facing, I'm really starting to understand that aspect more and more. I just like having the cdgs and ripping them myself... so I can prove I own the disc. When you download them from legal sites, you still have to keep a lot of paperwork to prove the ownership of them. |
Author: | ertaboy356b [ Wed May 09, 2007 6:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
I was thinking that the disc came from China or taiwan or hongkong because it contains Chinese songs... It has a mix of chinese songs and english songs.. I'm going to do some serious research on this.. Making HomeBrew Disc seems to be fun. |
Author: | ertaboy356b [ Sat May 12, 2007 7:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
I've just inspected the DVD karaoke of my friend and guess what I found.... Here's the Directory: 1. D:/Karaoke Fanfare (Folder) Philip (Folder) Font (FOlder) Info (Folder) DISCID.DAT (1 kb) NP01.DAT (1 kb) 2. D:/Karaoke/Fanfare NFAN1.MDN --->> NFAN6.MDN (file not more than 6 kb) 3. D:/Karaoke/Philip PI00001.MDN -->> PI32000.MDN (Not more than 80 kb each) I believe that this are the songs... Talking about compression... 4. D:/Karaoke/Font FONT0005.DAT FONT0006.DAT (22mb each) 5. D:/Karaoke/Info DSONGHDR.DB (467kb) SINGER.GLI (1kb) SORTGASU.LST(18kb) SORTNAME.LST(18kb) 6. D:/Video_TS DEFAULT.PLS (1kb) VIDEO_TS.BUP (10kb) VIDEO_TS.IFO(10kb) VTS_01_0.BUP (38kb) VTS_01_0.IFO (38kb) VTS_01_1.VOB (976mb) VTS_01_2.VOB (976mb) VTS_01_3.VOB (781mb) __________________________________________________________________ Still think it wasn't MIDI?? It has 32000 songs for God sake... By the way, I'm from South East Asia... |
Author: | knightshow [ Sat May 12, 2007 1:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
the .dat files are the vids... you can basically rename them to a .mpg or .mpeg and they'll play in windows media player! |
Author: | ertaboy356b [ Sat May 12, 2007 8:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
I want to know about the ".mdn" files and how do they make them... if only I could, I would have hack the CD and change the ".mdn" files to my songs of choice... BTW, its not Microsoft Access. |
Author: | Jian [ Sun May 13, 2007 2:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
How do they get in 32000 songs in a DVD when the .VOX files (mpeg-2)are well over 700mb each? The .MDN files look more like the database files of the disc. |
Author: | ertaboy356b [ Sun May 13, 2007 3:06 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
Heres a sample of it.. http://www.dtskaraoke.com/chmikadi27so.html |
Author: | Jian [ Sun May 13, 2007 6:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions.. |
Those are MIDI files with lyric (sometime ref to as .kara files). You can collect them from many sites; tons of them and mostly free. |
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