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Author:  ertaboy356b [ Sat May 05, 2007 6:52 am ]
Post subject:  Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions..

Ever saw those Karaoke with over 1000 songs... I was just wonderin' how do they make that thing...

I was thinking that it was a bunch of MIDI files..

Author:  Lonman [ Sat May 05, 2007 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions..

ertaboy356b @ Sat May 05, 2007 6:52 am wrote:
Ever saw those Karaoke with over 1000 songs... I was just wonderin' how do they make that thing...

I was thinking that it was a bunch of MIDI files..


Assuming you mean "Ever saw those karaoke DISCS WITH over 1000 songs"?
You are probably referring to the S-CDG which I believe - could be mistaken - CAVS makes the only players for these.  They are basically a bunch of mp3g files - not midi - on a DVD.  Cool in concept, but 1 scratch on the disc, a good chunk of your library is wiped out!

Author:  ertaboy356b [ Sat May 05, 2007 8:43 pm ]
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I've just seen a tutorial on how to make S-CDG.. I was wonderin, how can I make a .mcg file???

Author:  MorganLeFey [ Sun May 06, 2007 12:33 am ]
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cavs supply the software to enable you to, but again unless you have a cavs player they wont play

Author:  knightshow [ Sun May 06, 2007 2:39 am ]
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SuperCDG is a CAVS entry into a DVD type of environment...
NEO CD+G is a RSQ entry into the same DVD world...

Both are totally proprietary...

ugh!

Author:  ertaboy356b [ Sun May 06, 2007 6:38 am ]
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My friend have a CD with over 1000 songs.. His player has a dialing system use to dial the number of the song... I don't know if it is CAVS because he just bought it to someone else.. It got some weird brand, somewhat fake brand(i.e. Nike ---- Mike).. Yep somewhat altered name.. But it can play a bunch of 1000+ songs CD...

Author:  Mike W. [ Sun May 06, 2007 11:08 am ]
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ertaboy356b @ Sat May 05, 2007 8:43 pm wrote:
I've just seen a tutorial on how to make S-CDG.. I was wonderin, how can I make a .mcg file???


You need a program called Encoder MCG from CAVS.  CAVS has this program for sale on their website.

Author:  ertaboy356b [ Mon May 07, 2007 6:37 am ]
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Hmm.. In an approximate count, how much song will it fit into a CD-R using CAVS System( mp3 + mcg )???

Author:  knightshow [ Mon May 07, 2007 9:25 pm ]
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depends on the ripped bitrate.

For standard songs, you get from 14-17 (depending on song length, etc.)

For mp3+g format, they are basically from 1/5 to 1/10th the size of a standard cd+g or cd file.

It's fairly common to get 70-100 songs on a cdr.

Author:  exweedfarmer [ Mon May 07, 2007 10:19 pm ]
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So what's the deal here?  Is the CAVs MCG format smaller or different the MP3+CDG format?  Drunken inquiring minds want to know....

Author:  knightshow [ Mon May 07, 2007 10:32 pm ]
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they're essentially the same. I accidentally received the cavs disc one monthly update I got from THM... looking at the file sizes on the windows explorer was virtually the same.

Author:  ertaboy356b [ Tue May 08, 2007 5:47 am ]
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So what actually the most common disc today??? It isn't CAVS disc right??

Author:  knightshow [ Tue May 08, 2007 3:43 pm ]
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common is so relative to where you live.

For Jian, who lives in the Orient, it's DVDs, done to the original music.

For us, the standard STILL is cd+g discs... although more and more are leaning towarsd buying in compressed formats. With the legality issues we're facing, I'm really starting to understand that aspect more and more. I just like having the cdgs and ripping them myself... so I can prove I own the disc. When you download them from legal sites, you still have to keep a lot of paperwork to prove the ownership of them.

Author:  ertaboy356b [ Wed May 09, 2007 6:48 am ]
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I was thinking that the disc came from China or taiwan or hongkong because it contains Chinese songs... It has a mix of chinese songs and english songs..

I'm going to do some serious research on this.. Making HomeBrew Disc seems to be fun.

Author:  ertaboy356b [ Sat May 12, 2007 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Currently new to the forums... Just have some few questions..

I've just inspected the DVD karaoke of my friend and guess what I found....

Here's the Directory:

1. D:/Karaoke

Fanfare (Folder)
Philip (Folder)
Font (FOlder)
Info (Folder)
DISCID.DAT (1 kb)
NP01.DAT (1 kb)

2. D:/Karaoke/Fanfare

NFAN1.MDN --->> NFAN6.MDN

(file not more than 6 kb)

3. D:/Karaoke/Philip

PI00001.MDN -->> PI32000.MDN

(Not more than 80 kb each)

I believe that this are the songs... Talking about compression...

4. D:/Karaoke/Font

FONT0005.DAT
FONT0006.DAT
(22mb each)

5. D:/Karaoke/Info

DSONGHDR.DB (467kb)
SINGER.GLI (1kb)
SORTGASU.LST(18kb)
SORTNAME.LST(18kb)

6. D:/Video_TS

DEFAULT.PLS (1kb)
VIDEO_TS.BUP (10kb)
VIDEO_TS.IFO(10kb)
VTS_01_0.BUP (38kb)
VTS_01_0.IFO (38kb)
VTS_01_1.VOB (976mb)
VTS_01_2.VOB (976mb)
VTS_01_3.VOB (781mb)

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Still think it wasn't MIDI?? It has 32000 songs for God sake...
By the way, I'm from South East Asia...

Author:  knightshow [ Sat May 12, 2007 1:17 pm ]
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the .dat files are the vids...

you can basically rename them to a .mpg or .mpeg and they'll play in windows media player!

Author:  ertaboy356b [ Sat May 12, 2007 8:49 pm ]
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I want to know about the ".mdn" files and how do they make them... if only I could, I would have hack the CD and change the ".mdn" files to my songs of choice...

BTW, its not Microsoft Access.

Author:  Jian [ Sun May 13, 2007 2:24 am ]
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How do they get in 32000 songs in a DVD when the .VOX files (mpeg-2)are well over 700mb each?
The .MDN files look more like the database files of the disc.

Author:  ertaboy356b [ Sun May 13, 2007 3:06 am ]
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Heres a sample of it..

http://www.dtskaraoke.com/chmikadi27so.html

Author:  Jian [ Sun May 13, 2007 6:32 am ]
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Those are MIDI files with lyric  (sometime ref to as .kara files). You can collect them from many sites; tons of them and mostly free.

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