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Well this is a dj mixer, not designed for karaoke. The mics are for the dj & an extra mic for announcements - such as toasts at a wedding.
What model Behringer do you have now, you may be better off sticking with this board or go with another Behringer that will fit the needs better.

What model Behringer do you have now, you may be better off sticking with this board or go with another Behringer that will fit the needs better.

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QFX pro is going for $300 on up, for that you can get a realy good mixer that wil work both for karaoke and DJ. FOr that price you can get a realy good BEHRINGER mixer that will fit your needs.....

http://www.americanmusical.com/sort.asp ... &pic=false

That's exactly what the American Audio mixer is for...BOTH dj'ing and karaoke.

Alot of those behringer mixers are stand alones and not rackmountable...

djdawg @ Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:38 am wrote:

That's exactly what the American Audio mixer is for...BOTH dj'ing and karaoke.

Then why are you hear asking advice on the mixer, and not willing to accept the advice given? Go ahead an purchase it, I really could care less.

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Alot of those behringer mixers are stand alones and not rackmountable...

Don't know who is feeding you your info but 95% of behringer's mixers ARE rackmountable. The only 2 I know that aren't are the PMP 2000 & PMH 2000.

Lonman @ Thu Feb 15, 2007 wrote:

Hey Lonman...thanks for the response. I'm wondering what about it does not make it useable for karaoke? Many of us dj/kj's are looking for equipment that can do double duty and this seems like it might be the case. Again, it can have up to 4 mics which for a dj mixer is alot. Add to that they onboard efx for singers, I'd like to know why you don't think it would measure up for karaoke perfomance.

I really don't see why it should not work of karaoke. If you use channel 1 and 2 for singer's mic, those can be assigned the required vox efx. The KJ mic does not need exf.

djdawg @ Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:52 pm wrote:

Lonman @ Thu Feb 15, 2007 wrote:

Well after reading the manual to confirm what i've know about dj mixers in karaoke situations before, this one really looks no different. Only one mic is going to be balanced - mic 1. The other mics are going to be unbalanced via the 1/4" connectors may or may not be a big deal, but is prone to more interference & lowers sound quality. The mic channel eq has no midrange control - where MOST of the vocal frequencies lie plus it controls both mics the same - often times in duet situations, there needs to be individual adjustments in the eq of each mic.
i have to give kudos that they can assign effects to both mics - not very common.
If you just want something to "get by for karaoke" but don't really worry about making the singer sound good, then i'd say go for it, if you are concerned about making the singer sound good, get a board designed for live vocals such as the previously mentioned.

Jian @ Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:19 am wrote:

I really don't see why it should not work of karaoke. If you use channel 1 and 2 for singer's mic, those can be assigned the required vox efx. The KJ mic does not need exf.

True, but for $300+ dollars. Why?

Plus it is not going to be a good mixer for Karaoke use, as per Lonman's post.

Can't tell, read the manual, but it's not very clear as to how to assign effects to specific channels. It also needs an external effect processor (none built in) - which is usually better than the majority of the built in ones anyway, but it sounds like you want it as simple as possible on the karaoke side (not trying to slam). This board looks like it could be a little more karaoke friendly - especially in the mic eq'ing (having a midrange control & balanced in's).

Tell you what, you want a mixer that is truly designed for both dj'ing AND live mixing (vocals are live), it's a little pricey, but you aren't going to find none better!

Allen & Heath Xone 464.
http://store.djhardwares.com/alheatxon464.html

Author:	djdawg [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:	American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
I currently inherited a smaller Behringer mixer in the karaoke system I purchased from a friend and am looking to upgrade and I noticed this new mixer from American Audio/AMDJ. I'm wondering what more of you seasoned kj's think about it? It has efx, 4 mic inputs, and the 19" size that I prefer. The only downside is if you have two singers and you want fx on both of them, you need to use mic 1 & 2 as any other combination won't give you dual mic fx. Not a big deal but I always liked having my mic on "Mic 1" on the mixer...just seems easier but then I'm probably being anal.... http://www.adjaudio.com/product.asp?Pro ... cat=Mixers

Author:	Lonman [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
Well this is a dj mixer, not designed for karaoke. The mics are for the dj & an extra mic for announcements - such as toasts at a wedding. What model Behringer do you have now, you may be better off sticking with this board or go with another Behringer that will fit the needs better.

Author:	djdawg [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
Lonman @ Thu Feb 15, 2007 wrote: Well this is a dj mixer, not designed for karaoke. The mics are for the dj & an extra mic for announcements - such as toasts at a wedding. What model Behringer do you have now, you may be better off sticking with this board or go with another Behringer that will fit the needs better. Hey Lonman...thanks for the response. I'm wondering what about it does not make it useable for karaoke? Many of us dj/kj's are looking for equipment that can do double duty and this seems like it might be the case. Again, it can have up to 4 mics which for a dj mixer is alot. Add to that they onboard efx for singers, I'd like to know why you don't think it would measure up for karaoke perfomance.

Author:	twansenne [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
The QFX pro is going for $300 on up, for that you can get a realy good mixer that wil work both for karaoke and DJ. FOr that price you can get a realy good BEHRINGER mixer that will fit your needs..... http://www.americanmusical.com/sort.asp ... &pic=false

Author:	twansenne [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
Lonman @ Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:07 pm wrote: What model Behringer do you have now, you may be better off sticking with this board or go with another Behringer that will fit the needs better. OMG :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Author:	djdawg [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
twansenne @ Thu Feb 15, 2007 wrote: The QFX pro is going for $300 on up, for that you can get a realy good mixer that wil work both for karaoke and DJ. FOr that price you can get a realy good BEHRINGER mixer that will fit your needs..... http://www.americanmusical.com/sort.asp ... &pic=false That's exactly what the American Audio mixer is for...BOTH dj'ing and karaoke. Alot of those behringer mixers are stand alones and not rackmountable...

Author:	Jian [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:03 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
You only need two mic channels for singers; so that mixer seems to a good DJ/KJ combo-board.

Author:	twansenne [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:43 am ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
djdawg @ Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:38 am wrote: That's exactly what the American Audio mixer is for...BOTH dj'ing and karaoke. Then why are you hear asking advice on the mixer, and not willing to accept the advice given? Go ahead an purchase it, I really could care less. Quote: Alot of those behringer mixers are stand alones and not rackmountable... Don't know who is feeding you your info but 95% of behringer's mixers ARE rackmountable. The only 2 I know that aren't are the PMP 2000 & PMH 2000.

Author:	djdawg [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:28 am ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
twansenne @ Fri Feb 16, 2007 wrote: djdawg @ Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:38 am wrote: That's exactly what the American Audio mixer is for...BOTH dj'ing and karaoke. Then why are you hear asking advice on the mixer, and not willing to accept the advice given? Go ahead an purchase it, I really could care less. Quote: Alot of those behringer mixers are stand alones and not rackmountable... Don't know who is feeding you your info but 95% of behringer's mixers ARE rackmountable. The only 2 I know that aren't are the PMP 2000 & PMH 2000. I DO want advice...no worries...sometimes people respond as if they didn't even look at the specs, that's all. Not just you, this has a tendency to happen in forums and I'm sure you've experienced it. All you told me is that for the same $ I can get a good Behringer mixer and that I can find one that can do both jobs. The AA mixer can also do both jobs so I was just interested in WHY you felt the AA mixer could'nt do both jobs as effectively as a Behringer mixer. Not to start a Behringer/AA fight discussion but I feel more confident in American Audio/DJ lineup then Behringer. So, to rephrase my question for the rest of you. WHY do you think this mixer would or would not work well for karaoke? I already know it would be a great dj mixer because I have an AA mixer that is very similar to it and it's never failed me yet. I guess the best thing to do would be to listen to the fx and see how they sound on mics.

Author:	Jian [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:19 am ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
I really don't see why it should not work of karaoke. If you use channel 1 and 2 for singer's mic, those can be assigned the required vox efx. The KJ mic does not need exf.

Author:	Lonman [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:16 am ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
djdawg @ Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:52 pm wrote: Lonman @ Thu Feb 15, 2007 wrote: Well this is a dj mixer, not designed for karaoke. The mics are for the dj & an extra mic for announcements - such as toasts at a wedding. What model Behringer do you have now, you may be better off sticking with this board or go with another Behringer that will fit the needs better. Hey Lonman...thanks for the response. I'm wondering what about it does not make it useable for karaoke? Many of us dj/kj's are looking for equipment that can do double duty and this seems like it might be the case. Again, it can have up to 4 mics which for a dj mixer is alot. Add to that they onboard efx for singers, I'd like to know why you don't think it would measure up for karaoke perfomance. Well after reading the manual to confirm what i've know about dj mixers in karaoke situations before, this one really looks no different. Only one mic is going to be balanced - mic 1. The other mics are going to be unbalanced via the 1/4" connectors may or may not be a big deal, but is prone to more interference & lowers sound quality. The mic channel eq has no midrange control - where MOST of the vocal frequencies lie plus it controls both mics the same - often times in duet situations, there needs to be individual adjustments in the eq of each mic. i have to give kudos that they can assign effects to both mics - not very common. If you just want something to "get by for karaoke" but don't really worry about making the singer sound good, then i'd say go for it, if you are concerned about making the singer sound good, get a board designed for live vocals such as the previously mentioned.

Author:	twansenne [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:43 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
Jian @ Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:19 am wrote: I really don't see why it should not work of karaoke. If you use channel 1 and 2 for singer's mic, those can be assigned the required vox efx. The KJ mic does not need exf. True, but for $300+ dollars. Why? Plus it is not going to be a good mixer for Karaoke use, as per Lonman's post.

Author:	djdawg [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
Lonman @ Fri Feb 16, 2007 wrote: djdawg @ Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:52 pm wrote: Lonman @ Thu Feb 15, 2007 wrote: Well this is a dj mixer, not designed for karaoke. The mics are for the dj & an extra mic for announcements - such as toasts at a wedding. What model Behringer do you have now, you may be better off sticking with this board or go with another Behringer that will fit the needs better. Hey Lonman...thanks for the response. I'm wondering what about it does not make it useable for karaoke? Many of us dj/kj's are looking for equipment that can do double duty and this seems like it might be the case. Again, it can have up to 4 mics which for a dj mixer is alot. Add to that they onboard efx for singers, I'd like to know why you don't think it would measure up for karaoke perfomance. Well after reading the manual to confirm what i've know about dj mixers in karaoke situations before, this one really looks no different. Only one mic is going to be balanced - mic 1. The other mics are going to be unbalanced via the 1/4" connectors may or may not be a big deal, but is prone to more interference & lowers sound quality. The mic channel eq has no midrange control - where MOST of the vocal frequencies lie plus it controls both mics the same - often times in duet situations, there needs to be individual adjustments in the eq of each mic. i have to give kudos that they can assign effects to both mics - not very common. If you just want something to "get by for karaoke" but don't really worry about making the singer sound good, then i'd say go for it, if you are concerned about making the singer sound good, get a board designed for live vocals such as the previously mentioned. That makes total sense...thank you! I wasn't aware of the importance of balanced/unbalanced mic lines.

Author:	Jian [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
twansenne @ 17th February 2007, 5:43 am wrote: Jian @ Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:19 am wrote: I really don't see why it should not work of karaoke. If you use channel 1 and 2 for singer's mic, those can be assigned the required vox efx. The KJ mic does not need exf. True, but for $300+ dollars. Why? Plus it is not going to be a good mixer for Karaoke use, as per Lonman's post. I was assuming that he is a DJ who want to do karaoke once in a while. Then for $300, he is getting a DJ mixer that can be use for karaoke.

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Author:	djdawg [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:50 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
Thought I'd bump this for the heck of it because I wasn't very clear on what I was looking for. The way my rack system is going to end up I'll need a 19" karaoke mixer. The large, square ones that we're all accustomed to wil not work for me. I did find the Behringer VMX 1000 which is a 19" mixer and has two balanced mic inputs. If I need more then two balanced mics I could pick up a couple of dual cordless mic systems which would give me 4 mics total. It's hard for me to tell if it's possible to put fx on both mics 1 and 2. Does anyone know about this? http://www.behringer.com/VMX1000/index.cfm?lang=ENG

Author:	Lonman [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
Can't tell, read the manual, but it's not very clear as to how to assign effects to specific channels. It also needs an external effect processor (none built in) - which is usually better than the majority of the built in ones anyway, but it sounds like you want it as simple as possible on the karaoke side (not trying to slam). This board looks like it could be a little more karaoke friendly - especially in the mic eq'ing (having a midrange control & balanced in's). Tell you what, you want a mixer that is truly designed for both dj'ing AND live mixing (vocals are live), it's a little pricey, but you aren't going to find none better! Allen & Heath Xone 464. http://store.djhardwares.com/alheatxon464.html

Author:	djdawg [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: American Audio mixer - good to use for karaoke?
Lonman @ Fri Mar 09, 2007 wrote: Can't tell, read the manual, but it's not very clear as to how to assign effects to specific channels. It also needs an external effect processor (none built in) - which is usually better than the majority of the built in ones anyway, but it sounds like you want it as simple as possible on the karaoke side (not trying to slam). This board looks like it could be a little more karaoke friendly - especially in the mic eq'ing (having a midrange control & balanced in's). Tell you what, you want a mixer that is truly designed for both dj'ing AND live mixing (vocals are live), it's a little pricey, but you aren't going to find none better! Allen & Heath Xone 464. http://store.djhardwares.com/alheatxon464.html Yeah, I wish I had the bucks for that! Looks nice! I do have an Alesis vocal processor and after talking with the pssl guy about the 1000, it will work for external processing but the onboard processing is similar to the WOW effects that some of the dj mixers have right now. Mainly for the music end of it and not so much for vocals....looks like this could work though....