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| Author: | Guest [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Deteriorating karaoke discs |
The foil/label side is deteriorating. My discs are not being abused. They are in the bedroom in a wooden dresser. I have kept these masters in the bedroom and I only use copies at my shows. Lately it seems like everytime I need to replace a copy the master looks like swiss cheese if you hold it up to the light. My advice to anyone that has the technology to put their karaoke discs on a hard drive is, do it now. Take the master right out of the jewel case and put it on the HD to preserve it. We are not talking about the legalities right now, I'm just talking about saving your investment. As you know from reading the other posts, once a disc is sold out, they are gone forever. I wish I had the technology 14 years ago. Cds were suppose to last forever when they first announced them. But since they are made of aluminium and aluminium is subject to corrosion/oxidation from the atmosphere, they will not last forever. The only way I see a disc lasting forever is if the foil is made of gold, instead of aluminium. $$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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| Author: | Jian [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
Can it still play? |
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| Author: | Guest [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
It will play but skips and glitches because of the missing foil/information. |
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| Author: | Jian [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
And how old were those bad discs? |
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| Author: | timberlea [ Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
Exactly. In 16 years, we've only had to replace two dics for one song on each disc. They were KJTool discs that were used practically every night of the week. They were probably at least 11 years old. |
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| Author: | JoeChartreuse [ Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
I don't know what you use to copy your discs, but I use a Microboards QuicDisc duplicator. This is a free standing unit with built in firmware. It has the capability of remastering. Take a disc with say, skips,. You can scan it, then copy in safe (x1) mode from the saved scan, eliminating the skip. It has even saved a cracked disc. In effect,my backups ARE masters, and there are no paper labels to peel. I print separate paper labels and store them in the disc pouch. I bring my factory labeled discs to my shows ( also good to have in case the KP come in to inspect). When one of these wear out or are damaged (very rare), I replace them with copy (marked backup disc). I also save my jewel case labels to prove they were bought legally. BTW- I store the backups in books, not cases. This keeps atmospheric exposure to a minimum. |
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| Author: | kegparty [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
The KP I like it... but they better come with a court order... If not they can go play in a corner... I don't give a damn who they think they are. Besides I won't buy or use PHM or SC disks anymore. I've replaced all of the songs with other versions. Funny how none of my singers miss them either. |
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| Author: | Guest [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
In a related line, I started burning my VHS tape collection over to DVD....160 down, lord knows how many to go. I'd say CD disc life is pretty long however...geez, remember vinyl records? |
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| Author: | SwingcatKurt [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
Hey dont knock Vynil!! Was just playing my Joe Jackson record tonight(Night & day). Only problem Ive ever had with the vynil is the drive belt snapped on my Technics turntable---AFTER 25 YRS OF SERVICE. Ill still take vynil over CD's. They just seem to have a warmer, fuller tone to them. And the OLD RCVER I have it hooked to even has a scratch eliminator switch that takes out all the pops, clicks and scratch noises! Cant beat that!! |
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| Author: | jerry12x [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
I read recently that karaoke disks are not manufactured to as high a standard as ordinary music cd's. (If requested I will find the sourse) i.e. the foil. Could anyone say why that is... |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
jerry12x @ Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:28 am wrote: I read recently that karaoke disks are not
manufactured to as high a standard as ordinary music cd's. (If requested I will find the sourse) i.e. the foil. Could anyone say why that is... Most likely cost issues. The manus send their products out to get pressed/duplicated, so it could be what the pressers choose to use as well. |
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| Author: | ericlater [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
I think it was Bob Dylan who recently went on a rant about the sound quality (superior) of records compared to CD's Never had Joe Jackson on Vinyl but do have him on CD! Is there a difference between where a publisher would get a CD pressed as compared to a Karaoke manu? |
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| Author: | JoeChartreuse [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
kegparty @ Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:52 am wrote: The KP I like it... but they better come with a court order... If not they can go play in a corner... I don't give a who they think they are. Besides I won't buy or use PHM or SC disks anymore. I've replaced all of the songs with other versions. Funny how none of my singers miss them either.
Right on about a court order. NOBODY slows down my show. As for SC and PHM: I always thought was over-hyped and over-priced anyway. I've run into some true clinkers on SC, while Zoom is at least a match for them. PHM was NEVER a top end mfr. in my book. I have very few of their discs.... |
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| Author: | timberlea [ Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
Actually the FBI (US) or the RCMP (Canada) wouldn't need a warrant to confiscate or sieze your copies or harddrive at a show in a bar or other public venue as it would be "plain sight". And in Canada they have started doing that. |
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| Author: | JoeChartreuse [ Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
timberlea @ Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:15 am wrote: Actually the FBI (US) or the RCMP (Canada) wouldn't need a warrant to confiscate or sieze your copies or harddrive at a show in a bar or other public venue as it would be "plain sight". And in Canada they have started doing that.
Don't know about Canada, but in the US theymust show just cause. In my case, as posted, I use only mfr. labeled discs. They would have none. But the people in question were not government agencies, but artist groups. They have no jurisdiction of their own, and would need a writ to enlist a law agency's help. On their own they can go spit in their hat..... |
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| Author: | timberlea [ Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deteriorating karaoke discs |
If you're using original discs, then there is no problem. |
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