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Bigdog...I would just like to publicly apologize for asking people to ban you...I was very upset with you at the time and then when you disappeared for a while I realized that I missed you and was worried about you....

I do respect that you are a very passionate person and I know that I don't have to aggree with everything you say.  That's what makes this country so great!!!

Good to see you back...

Sharon

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Ah, group hug.....  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:


I was happy to see he'd been back too. Don't ask me why, the dang varmint don't deserve it.  LOL

But, I hate to see people leave here. I'm more the "kiss and make up" type person. (or kiss.... then if you don't make up..... atleast you got the kiss)

Okay, shut up Charm.

Kudos to you Sharon, I think you're a pretty decent person for starting this:)

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When everybody started ganging up on the dog then I didnt post but I was on his side .. I am a shepherd.. I might jump on a lamb or try to provoke them into a confrontation.. I dont believe in using worn out phrases but it is called tuff love. I have suffered from and have worked with dozens of vets with post traumatic syndrome.  I can recognize some traits from bd's posts which I wont speculate, analyze or prejudge.

From the olden days it was one on one no ganging  and if a man was down you didnt pile on him.. Whatever Big Dog is he sense that from me and altough he has never expreessed it he shows respect for his elders which I appreciate.

It is hard to identify with or communicate on  a forum such as this and if I knew dog 1st hand I could adjust but when he is secrative it is impossible,, So dog from me to you keep the chatter down about things you have covered before Bring up some new ideas!!! Nobody here hates you but relax and get some NEW ideas

You can hide behind walls and dream about greener pastures  and snort and become significant to thyself in a small bubble but one day the bubble bursts and one no longer plays a role about being someone and becomes that for they are...

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Personally I found his abscence to be a REFRESHING BREAK FROM HIS NONSENSE!

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"You know that I sing the Blues and I do not suffer fools. When I'm on that silver mic, it's gonna cut ya, just like a knife"-The SWINGCAT

You know over the last year I have tried to interject some basic businees practices and public relations ideas but it was  met with OH no no no no... Most on here have an opinion and they are not going to accept new ideas so wats the difference between those and the dog?

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I actually think most people are more open minded than you think.  Sure they may be set in their ways - rotations, what kind of equipment, etc...just because something works for one doesn't mean everyone has to follow that plan - I agree that people shouldn't just go off saying that someones way won't work, however when someone continually repeats the same thing over to ad nauseum because they don't believe other things work & bringing up little quirks in almost every reply that is being argued in other topics just to stir up crap, there's your difference.  Most people generally will state their opinion & move on.

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Isis like Charmin I think you rawk

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"Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."

I'd like to make a request for the mods to consider.  This last week has been absolutely disgusting in here regarding certain threads (visible intent or not) leading to side taking, pack mentality, etc. It HAS been lynchmob type behavior in here. "Ganging up" on a member, High Fives to friends for joining sides in room brawls, and people showing their loyalty to their friends by taking shots at another member to show their bravado, and back their "pledge to loyalty". It's not good for the morale of the members that don't wish to see ongoing dissidence in here, some that have in fact come here to avoid America Online chatroom type mentality, IE....  "Let's stick together and conquer _____",  and-- threads started with two full pages attacking, conspiring and YES actually calling individuals "idiots" "jerks" etc.. It's WRONG.  My joke about "snowball fight" was to try to lighten things up, it's been ugly in here, no wonder there are fewer posts. Those perpetuating room fights in hopes of resolving their personal vendetta, are actually upsetting quite a few of the other members, many of which don't take sides, some leave the site, and some post what I am now posting in hopes of ending this type sophomorish behavior..

Why are these situations allowed to go ON and ON ?   It makes little logical sense.  If there's a complaint contact A MODERATOR.  Members shouldn't be starting fights in here, and yes, MOST of us are old enough to know that certain presentations of issues WILL start a fight, even when a post is prefaced with "I don't mean to start anything but"...There are many ways people bash using the guise of "legit grievance", thing is IF there's a legit issue, bring it up and END IT, drag your friends out of your battle too.  Once the dander gets flying, this stuff just doesn't end.  The recent situations brought up can't be resolved by a KS room war.  There's undercurrent to these situations, and those that aren't involved for the most part don't want to see folks fighting, really want NO involvement. Issues brought to the "open" forum have been, and ARE FOR the whole room to offer opinions on, none of us own any post or thread in these public forums, ALL see them, some with SS related grievances perhaps should just go to Singers Forum if they have SS issues, it's somewhat more private but still, MUCH of this recent stuff can't be resolved their either. Current posts regarding SS "issues" have been of a personal nature, NO objective overview has been offered regarding what the real problem is hence,  a whole room hears biased presentations, personal bits and pieces when realistically, Without knowing ALL facts/impartial details regarding these personal gripes, such situations can't and won't be settled by ROOM opinions/ nasty exchanges (adding insult to injury).  Much of the time, folks fighting don't even want others opinions. They want to let off some steam which should be OK, but when things go on for days, quite a few others viewing the altercation and its fallout also get offended, want no part of it. Regs here read just about EVERYTHING. Few are on ignore. Some of us also wish to like BOTH sides of these spats, and want you to keep personal or irreconcilable differences with others to yourself.. Karaoke Scene Open forum the past 4-5 days (at least) has been more or a rompus room as opposed to the civil chat venue, which it's intended to be..

Fight in PM's, Call friends on the telephone,  but don't cheapen yourselves by showing "pack mentality" and in some cases swaying back and forth. "Ban him", "Don't ban him"...etc..  The people openly suggesting a room should ban a member, or trying to incite such behavior should be spoken to IMHO.. If problems get to that point, PRESS YOUR OWN button to banish them, but keep it out've the room..  NOTIFY the mods instead but leave it out of a room that's otherwise harmonious.

Person(s) attempting to incite "lynch mob" type mentality, and going on and on violating TOS by calling other members "Idiot" ""Jerk" etc are not just displaying Jr HS type mentality in here but forming teams. Sadly enough people are jumping into these brawls, individuals that otherwise wouldn't dare bring up these issues without the backing of their KS buddies. It even seems as if lines of folks form waiting to take sucker punches at others. Things are visibly VERY ugly to those of us that haven't a clue what the heck you folks are fighting about to begin with, but realistically, if you don't like another member, don't listen to them, DO NOT comment to them, but assuming they opt to keep commenting to you, you have two options.  Ignore their remarks, or submit under "listen only" for a short time. You can't control others commenting within SS if you post in critique or comment areas. If someone gets your goat, suck it up, or submit to listen only.  It's the nature of the beast.. You have NO control of what others say, just how maturely and diplomatically you handle adversity.. and quite honestly, it's not being handled well if folks are this disgruntled about one member.. OR... Time to chill out.. take a break..Stuff in SS causing a fight in here where mud-slinging takes place does what ?  Who benefits ?

It seems reasonable that if a person has a genuine issue with another member, they settle it either in PM, Email, or contact the Moderating staff.  Airing dirty laundry in these rooms and going on and on does nothing except damages room morale.  Even if you DO have a point to be angry about. Some of us DO NOT enjoy watching your tag-team KS Ultimate Fighting Tournament display.

This is my opinion,  I have no regrets airing it either.

Members in the chat forums shouldn't be allowed to become KS Pinjata's with a bunch of folks taking shots at them !  Mods should end this type stuff !

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All of this "action" took place during my absence.    

I was on trial for murder.    :whistle:    

I "offed" someone on another forum that didn't like me.   I was found not guilty by reason of insanity.  

I hold no ill feelings toward anyone.    

To all of my friends...Hi.  :wave:  :hug:  

To all others... bite my tail.

I accept whatever apology you think is necessary, from everyone and anyone.

Let's get back to quality karaoke.

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Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".

Speaking Of People No Longer Here Or No Longer Posting Has Anyone Heard From KEITH? He Was Here Posting Regularly, Then All Of A Sudden He Dissapeared. I Especially Miss His Posts In The Technical Forum.

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Man Must Know His Limitations -Clint Eastwood

Mr Kaplan you make a valid point.
There are times you can't help but get caught up in the moment.

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Nick

My lovable puppy BD is back!  :oh yeah:   The evil twin is gone! I, too, apologize.    I missed you dreadfully. Because of the infighting Kappy was talking about, I won't be around here very much any more, but while I am here this morning, give me a virtual hug, you scruffy mutt!!     I think we proved that you are definitely not the only controversial poster in the gang.  LOL

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I know Nick.  At times we ALL have, or can get caught up in these moments.  What happened here is also an example of that.

This is why I made a suggestion to the moderating staff.

Also gets back to what I mentioned elsewhere.  There's nothing easy about Singer's Showcase over the long haul.

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I just want to state that while you (Kappy) were not speaking directly to me or specifically about me I feel the need to comment b/c alot of this weeks disgusting posts were in my thread(s)

I did on several occasions apologize to members & non members alike for the garbage that ensued b/c of my thread. Bu I also I feel like it was my right as a member here to at least voice my opinion about such abuse that happens here. No one should be "run off" this site,especially members who contribute positively.  

I have fun here. I do not LIKE to fight. Ive been here long enough for all of you to know that.I was unjustly accused & did try to settle it in pms & as you saw it did not help. I tried to end the thread (on my part) the very morning BEFORE I got a snide comment on my sub. There was no call for that. Up until that point I still wasnt naming his name. It was a "if the shoe fits wear it" kind of thread that I WANTED. A "maybe something can be done to prevent this from happening" kinda thread.
I dont know what else to say.

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Kelley
Star Sounds Karaoke & Mobile Recording Studio


[shadow=black][scroll]You have to respect your audience. Without them, you're essentially standing alone, singing to yourself....KD Lang[/scroll][/shadow]

As mentioned, along with some objective clarification of some other accusations made in the sturm and drang of the moment I have recently deposited into in the other thread (which should be removed by now, thank you) containing the aforementioned fracas, I apologize profusely to Kelley and every individual who entered that fray for wounding them in any way and for not remaining calm and reasonable during the duration.  It's my fault.  You are just wonderful, sweet folks, each and every one of you and have no right to be assaulted like that.  It is unthinkable.   And there is sensibility in this place as none of my pals on this site lowered themselves by getting involved, but one, who whose reasonable  objectiveness permitted me to apologize. Have a great weekend!

Im with you kelley  :hug:

I already talked with Bigdog so it knows where we stand  :D

As for me....I am who I am and I will never be ashamed of it!  you can put me down all you want about my pack mentality....I don't care!! It don't make me any less of a person than anyone else.

Im the way that I am because I learned early in life that there are bullies in this world who will pick on people who they think they can run over or run off.   I found out that if you stand your ground and fight back that they will eventually leave you alone or become your friend- one or the other!!!

I am not a wimp!!! never have been and never will be!!!  If someone gets up in my face and causes trouble....then they will recieve trouble!!!


I think steven is a well liked person around here and Im sure he has some great points about some things.....But by his point of view....if someone comes into your yard and starts throwing rocks at your house and causing damage to your property then you should do nothing other than call the cops!!!

If calling the cops don't do any good because the cops are saying...uh well we don't see a problem with it...its your property its your house so we don't want to get involved!!! ....Sorry!!!! your problem not ours!!!!


So then your just supposed to let this person keep on damaging your property?
I think not!!! I will take my own action if the ones who are in charge are not willing to do what is right....its that simple...like it or not!!!  LOL


Sounds to me like school kids who want to pick on others and now are mad because someone stood up and put a stop to there fun game of being a bully.  :baby1:


Thanks Kelley & Pam...I know I can count on you two  :hug:

And big thanks to Nick  :handshake: He's a friend that can be counted on too!!  :)

I'd like to thank Michael for making that public apology. I think Kelley has explained her problem and apologized when needed also.  I think the air has been cleared up substantially now and I don't see any reason to flame up further any of these recent fights.  In the future I do think that people should do their best to keep fights in private.  I can't really think of a single incident where public involvement has done any good at all.

I agree  :)

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Kelley
Star Sounds Karaoke & Mobile Recording Studio


[shadow=black][scroll]You have to respect your audience. Without them, you're essentially standing alone, singing to yourself....KD Lang[/scroll][/shadow]

When Odie speaks, Michael listens...thank you Don.