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EElvis
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:12 am |
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Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:01 am Posts: 841 Location: New Orleans Been Liked: 0 time
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Finally a vocal reduction program even dummies like me can use. I have tried this, and it works better than My old Thompsons vocal eliminator. Granted not all songs can have the vocals removed, but this is the best I have see at it.
The best thing is the price $9.99 Not like it is a big investment.
http://mtu.com/basics/vocal-eliminator-lite.htm
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Charmin_Gibson
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:49 am |
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I'm gonna take your word for it.....
I have done that to alot of songs, and it ALWAYS makes the music sound horrible. Sounds like this program preserves music quality better than most. $10 is not a terrible investment, so I'm gonna try it out:)
Cool thread.
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twansenne
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:25 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:03 pm Posts: 1921 Images: 1 Location: N. Central Iowa Been Liked: 53 times
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Please someone report back on how it worked. But it will probably just be the same old sam old, just like any other vocal removing sofware out there, and hatchet the song too much. But I will keep my mind opend for now.
Makes me wonder why therre is not free trial period to test it out. HMMMMMM....
Or did I miss that part.
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Retronut
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:36 am |
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Joined: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:22 pm Posts: 62 Been Liked: 0 time
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Just curious if there is any further feedback on this software. I have an upgrade coupon that I can use to buy the mac daddy version but will save my money if it is still just more of the same.
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EElvis
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:49 am |
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Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:01 am Posts: 841 Location: New Orleans Been Liked: 0 time
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If you are talking about the full version, It does a lot more than the Lite version does and is definitely worth the money.
There is No..... No.... software that will remove all vocals from all music. But this is the best I have used. I even had one of the Thompson vocal eliminators, and it was garbage next to the full version of vogone.
On about 30% of carefully selected music, it will remove almost all vocals. on another 40% it will take out enough where there is a slight hint of echo vocals in the background. in about 30% left, there is no hope. a Lot of remastered music is nothing more than double Mono tracks. This software works best where you have a good stereo track, with vocals panned center, and little or no Echo/reverb.
as well as Vocal reduction, it has Bass and Treble enhancement as well as master volume control. so it does do a lit, and can be a good tool.
They have a webpage that gives you examples for how good it works for typical songs. go check it out.
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covertunes
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:05 am |
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well, I've got the full version of Vogone. I just can't imagine the lite version being any better than this one. Out of probably 100 songs I've used vogone on, I would say only about 3 have achieved results good enough to use.
This program takes away tremendously from the bass and music as vocals are reduced more and more. By the time you have the vocals maybe 90 percent eliminated, you are left with VERY crappy sounding background music.
simply download the demo for Vogone version 3.102 on the mtu site and try it.
the one the are offering for 9.99 will be no better.
tk
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covertunes
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:15 am |
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EElvis @ Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:49 am wrote: as well as Vocal reduction, it has Bass and Treble enhancement as well as master volume control. so it does do a lit, and can be a good tool.
They have a webpage that gives you examples for how good it works for typical songs. go check it out.
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But, as you use the bass enhancement to bring back the bass you lost removing the vocals, the bass part of the vocals are brought back in. You are just working in circles using this.
I wonder how many songs they had to go through before they found one that actually worked?
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MikeRphone
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:05 pm |
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I am trying to submit a song into the singers showcase as a newbie and I am pretty much lost. I try to submit and it say I have exceeded my limit. This is my first song.
I listened to the song and my vocals hardly turned out at all. I don't know how to get my vocal levels up using my computer. I have very little controls and they show max.
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maninblack
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:59 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:22 am Posts: 612 Location: Tennessee Been Liked: 0 time
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I purchased the Behringer UB1832FX-PRO mixing board and it has the Vocal Cancel feature. Like many of you, I expected it to be pretty halfarse, but I was very, let me repeat very surprised. Now of course it didn't completely remove all of the vocals, but it left them in the background enough to where you could sing over them. I guess it depends on how the disc was recorded. Example: I tried the Rob Zombie disc for Superbeast, and I was very impressed with the results. Not only did it bury the lead vocals in the back, but it in fact boosted up the outer channels which had the main guitars/bass and drums. So that when I sang over it, you couldn't even hear the recorded vocals in the background with the exception of the backups on the chorus which was very cool. I tried it on my Rammstein, bingo..tried it on my KMFDM, bingo...tried it on some old Uriah Heep, bingo..some Bloodrock, bingo. The only disc that it didn't work at all on were my David Bowie disc, everything else was good enough to sing right over. So I'm a very happy camper with the results. Now the one thing I should mention is that this feature only works on a player that you use in the CD/Tape insert plug. I normally run my karaoke machine through a channel, but that's no biggie as I would only use this feature for me to sing with, not for public consumption. So it's not like I'm trying to strip out the vocals of a song and re-record them so I can use them in my show. This is a toy for my own personal use.
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:23 pm |
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It is based completely on how the original recording was done. Vocals are generally panned straight up ie the same signal in both channels. What these eliminators do is search for like frequencies & phase reverses them which cancels them out. The more centered the signal is, the better the chance of eliminating them. No on the downside, many instruments are also panned straight up - like kick drum, snre drum often, bass guitar, sometimes keyboard & often a lead guitar, sometimes the lead guitar will have a slight delay in each channel thickening up the sound, sometimes enough where it would be left for the most part intact by the eliminator. So while the processor will work with the vocal, it also eliminates these key instruments - or greatly reduces them leaving a thin sounding track. You can do some eq'ing to sort of repair what was taken out, but is usually eq'ing the residual mud that is left in the back ground. Also if any effects were used on the vocal, effects are usually panned off center so you will still hear the effects - a ghost track is what it sounds like - which could work to your benefit when singing over it.
Mono recordings you are completely out of luck, there isn't a processor on Earth that will reduce the vocals in these recordings - well ok, there probably is, but it isn't anything that is affordable.
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robdogkaraoke
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:02 am |
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tk101 @ Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:05 am wrote: well, I've got the full version of Vogone. I just can't imagine the lite version being any better than this one. Out of probably 100 songs I've used vogone on, I would say only about 3 have achieved results good enough to use.
This program takes away tremendously from the bass and music as vocals are reduced more and more. By the time you have the vocals maybe 90 percent eliminated, you are left with VERY crappy sounding background music.
simply download the demo for Vogone version 3.102 on the mtu site and try it.
the one the are offering for 9.99 will be no better.
tk
Try golwave to remove the vocals then reload the original file and make a bass pass file then use audacity and do a quick mix of the 2 files and thats as good as it gets. This will improve the bass loss.
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robdogkaraoke
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:04 am |
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Lonman @ Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:23 pm wrote: It is based completely on how the original recording was done. Vocals are generally panned straight up ie the same signal in both channels. What these eliminators do is search for like frequencies & phase reverses them which cancels them out. The more centered the signal is, the better the chance of eliminating them. No on the downside, many instruments are also panned straight up - like kick drum, snre drum often, bass guitar, sometimes keyboard & often a lead guitar, sometimes the lead guitar will have a slight delay in each channel thickening up the sound, sometimes enough where it would be left for the most part intact by the eliminator. So while the processor will work with the vocal, it also eliminates these key instruments - or greatly reduces them leaving a thin sounding track. You can do some eq'ing to sort of repair what was taken out, but is usually eq'ing the residual mud that is left in the back ground. Also if any effects were used on the vocal, effects are usually panned off center so you will still hear the effects - a ghost track is what it sounds like - which could work to your benefit when singing over it. Mono recordings you are completely out of luck, there isn't a processor on Earth that will reduce the vocals in these recordings - well ok, there probably is, but it isn't anything that is affordable.
This is why older songs wich did not use a lot of effects and had vocals panned straight to the center devocalize better than others.
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