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| Author: | JDrifter [ Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Amp Case - Advice Requested |
As bad luck would have it, I took great pains to select the "right" case for my mixer and other gears only to find out that I ran out of space. I have the Carvin DCM2500 (3U) in an old amp case with rollers but it is only 3U. I am looking for an amp case (8U) that can act as a stand for the 106DJ. I know that I can set the 106DJ on the table and the 8U amp case underneath the table, but I am trying to avoid having to use a table. One other option that I'm considering is to remove the Mackie CFX12 from the 106DJ and install it in a pop-up mixer case. I can then mount the BBE 482i, TC M300 effects, and DBX compressor/limiter, on top, leaving enough space to mount the DCM2500, DBX 231 eq, Carvin XC3000 crossover, and surge suppressor on the front of the 106DJ. Help anyone? |
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| Author: | karyoker [ Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
From years of experience with various systems (radar broadcast etc) and old habits I seperate level audio racks from the rest. A rack is designed to have a common "0 resistence ground" between the units thus inter-connections are not critical In fact some things I have hard wired in mine with small sheilded cable. However the racks should be commened with a good heavy ground wire fastened to each rack. The line power in is also green fastened to the rack rails.. Another consideration is heat...Leave a 1 unit space between the amps.. |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
I always preferred my mixer to be separate from the other racks. If it were me, i'd get the pop up mixer case & rack the rest - if you can, amps separately as well, I know it's more to carry, but much more versatile if needed. |
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| Author: | Guest [ Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
I have 3 boxes. One for the mixer, effects, etc. One for the machines. One for the Amp. |
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| Author: | lyquiddye [ Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
I use sbk mini gig rigs and roto rollers. The mini gig rig has my mixer, effects, mp3 player, and other rack gear. The roto roller has my amps and crossover |
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| Author: | jamkaraoke [ Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
I also us the SKB 106 - great little case - My suggestion would be to keep that case and look at some of the Rolling rack cases from Oddysey. You maybe able to put the SKB right on top. I also had the gig rig but feklt it was too LOW to the ground for KJ/DJ work - Better suited for live sound tech etc. If weight isn't a problem look into a complete rolling rack from Oddesy with mixer and player on top amps effecets etc on bottom http://www.odysseygear.com/display.php?sku=cs4812w |
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| Author: | TopherM [ Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
Here is what I use for my amps. I have the 12 space and it holds my main amp (2 space), my monitor amp (2 space), a power conditioner/strip (1 space), a few vent spacers (2 space), and a 4 space drawer, which holds all of my cables once I break down (which is VERY convenient!!). I am technically only using 9 of the 12 spaces, which allows for expansion if I get some more stuff. http://www.markertek.com/SearchProduct. ... &sort=prod As you see, this rack is sturdy and simple, not to mention inexpensive!! It is on casters and weighs 37 pounds empty, but with everything in it weighs a little over 100 pounds. Fortunately I just need to lift it into and out of my truck then roll it the rest of the way. Also, the rack is a little under 3 feet tall and very sturdy to put my other rack on. My mixer rack is a Gator Lite rack 10x6. It holds my mixer, a power conditioner/strip, my BBE 362, and my Numark 25G player. The case itself weighs about 18 pounds, though with the equipment it goes about 50 pounds. http://www.progearwarehouse.com/GATOR-G ... tegory=883 When I want to conserve space or don't have a table to work with, the mixer rack fits nicely on top of the amp rack. With the amp rack at a little under 3 feet and the mixer rack a little over 2 feet, this puts my mixer at just a bit below my chest (I'm 6'6"), making it very ergonomic for use. |
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| Author: | JDrifter [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
Thank you all for your suggestions. It seems that the cheapest route for me is to keep the SKB 106DJ and buy an amp case that is big enough to accommodate the Carvin DCM2500 amp and rack-mountable players. I have been looking into the SKB 8 space case, but I'm not sure if I could set the SKB 106DJ on top of it. Is this a good idea? Before I bought the 106DJ from an online store, I had a couple of close wins on ebay. Believe it or not, I almost bought a like new SKB gig rig off of ebay for only 106.99 but my bid was sniped at the last moment. I was outbid by only one stinking dollar. @#$!!! The next day, I lost a bid again by the same stinking dollar on a slightly used Gator GRC-10x12 PU. The final bid was $110. |
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| Author: | Guest [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
A day late and a dollar short.
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| Author: | Guest [ Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
My mixer box weighs almost 100 lbs. My machine box weighs almost 65 lbs. My amp box weighs almost 60 lbs. My subs weigh about 90 lbs each. My tops weigh about 60 lbs each. Putting everything is one box will kill you, way before your time.
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| Author: | eben [ Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
Bigdog @ Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:14 am wrote: My mixer box weighs almost 100 lbs.
My machine box weighs almost 65 lbs. My amp box weighs almost 60 lbs. My subs weigh about 90 lbs each. My tops weigh about 60 lbs each. Putting everything is one box will kill you, way before your time. I disagree with that somewhat. I have a case that I have all my equipment rackmounted. Of course I have powered speakers so I don't have to put amps in my cases but sure makes it handy to have everyone in one rack. It's got wheels so I can push it down the ramp from my van to the street then just reel it in to where ever I need to go. |
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| Author: | Guest [ Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
How do you handle steps? All of my gear weighs right around 800 lbs. There's work and then there's work. Flights of stairs are not my idea of work. I have some different size ramps I can use. But I absolutely will not do anything that is up or down an entire flight of steps. 5-6 steps is my max. I turned down 2 steady gigs in one month. One was Upstairs and one was downstairs. I told the one bar owner I wouldn't do it for $500-1000 a night. 
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| Author: | timberlea [ Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
Don't play places that has steps. Some things just aren't worth it. |
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| Author: | eben [ Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
Bigdog @ Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:27 am wrote: How do you handle steps? All of my gear weighs right around 800 lbs. There's work and then there's work. Flights of stairs are not my idea of work.
I have some different size ramps I can use. But I absolutely will not do anything that is up or down an entire flight of steps. 5-6 steps is my max. I turned down 2 steady gigs in one month. One was Upstairs and one was downstairs. I told the one bar owner I wouldn't do it for $500-1000 a night. I have rock'n roll cart with large wheels. Worst case I use it to get it up the stairs. Unless stairs is large, I can use those large air filled wheels to get them up. As I said, without amps, the weight is a lot less than 800 lbs, more like 200 lb range. I can usually get help on stairs and it's easy job for two people. It's not too bad to me. And my rack is filled from top to bottom, I have a picture of it somewhere on this forum. |
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| Author: | Guest [ Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
From what you've stated every item listed has a weight over 50 pounds meaning that the only safe way to lift and move them is with two people or with significant mechanical assistance. I've seen way too many people who thought they were Hercules end up with severe back/disc problems after 5-10 years of moving that level of weight by themselves. The biggest problem with back injuries is that they usually don't give an indication of significant damage until it's too late. You have to have an assistant if you're going to do stairs with equipment. I base this information on statistics and my personal experience of over 15 years in the safety profession. |
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| Author: | Guest [ Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
I blew out my back when I was 19. It's never going to be right. I have learned how to live with it. I haul all of my equipment myself. It's a one man show and I'm a damn good man. 
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| Author: | JDrifter [ Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
Quote: I blew out my back when I was 19. It's never going to be right. I have learned how to live with it. I haul all of my equipment myself. Dunno lil dawgie... You blew your back, yet you prefer to carry 800 lbs of gear all by yourself. It boggles my mind. Why do you punish yourself? |
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| Author: | Guest [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Amp Case - Advice Requested |
It's the Die Hard professional in me. My mission is to bring the highest quality karaoke to the masses. Don't stand in my way.  :O :worship:
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