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 Post subject: yamaha versus mackie
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:25 pm 
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hey everyone, trying to get away from the home version karaoke vocopro's and the like. i've started looking around and found a couple of mixers i've liked: yamaha mg8/2fx 8-input stereo mixer and mackie dfx6 6x2 miser with efx (both found at my local guitarcenter).

mackie http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/produc ... =101720829

yamaha
http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/produc ... =103046090

i'm planning to hook up the mixer to my home theater amp through some soon to be purchased jbl jrx112m monitors. i know mackie is a heavyweight but saw something on the yamaha that got me thinking.

on the yamaha mg8/2fx i saw that the 7/8 channels have separate controls to control the gains and effects which i don't see on the mackie dfx6. since i will be planning to hook up my dvd player to the mixer, i'm thinking that the yamaha will give me more control over sound and vocals.

my second question is how good are the digital effects on both mixers? the only other equipment i might add to this setup is a bbe sonic maximizer. thanks for the input.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:40 pm 
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I have never use a Mackie but the MG16 is what we use. There is no diffrent between the 16 and 8, except for the number of chennels. The DSP efx on the MG is good,very much better than the UB of the Behringer. How is it compare to Mackie; I don't know.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:04 am 
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I hope you will do your homework and shop features first....Features RULE when it comes to mixers.

I am not familar with the two mixers you listed, but I can tell you that you will eventually want the most bang for the buck.

You will want channel inserts, you want mic low cuts, you want extensive metering, you want switching and as many buses as possible, you will want several stereo inputs, you will want onboard FX, you will want decent reliability....you may not know you want those things today, but you will tomorrow.

Some models of every manufacturer offer those things, but they are not reliable. That is due to the shift to overseas manufacturing and the price wars currently being fought.

My best advise is for you to study hard and learn about mixers, then research their various support forums to see what kinda of problems they are having with reliability and support.

I use Behringer, but they fersure ain't the best...I use them for their complete list of features and the fact I can afford to swap one out if it fails tomorrow.

If you seek best quality, features and low cost, then expect to pay $$ where $$ is due....Features are cheap-quality is expensive.

Please don't fail to plan for tomorrow...Look at connectivity too. you may discover you will need firewire and USB connections soon...Many new rackable mixers offer that at little cost.

Mic pre amps.....No budget mixer has really good mic pre amps.....NONE.....It's a simple math thang.....Any good quality mic pre costs about 200 bucks minimum per mic strip....do the math and you will see that no imported mixer with a dozen mic pre's  that costs 250 bucks or even 700 bucks offers quality mic pre's....different mixer makers brag about their mic pre's and call them fancy names, but they are all cheap and sound cheap.

Go back to features when you shop mixers and forget what they hype about their mic pre amps....Features are cheap and they really total up, but when it comes to mixer mic pre's none of them are really better than any other when it comes down to it...So pay only for features.

You want quality mic pre's, then you will pay for them later....Just make certain your mixer at least has an insert on each mic channel to accept them.

Expect to pay more for a quality mic pre than you paid for the whole mixer.


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I have used both and both are good mixers.    I agree with keith! Look for the features u need but gt a quality one!
http://www.zzounds.com/item--YAMEMX500012

I have this yamaha emx5000-12 now and I LOVE it!

swithable power settings....150x2...300x2.......500x2

DUAL digital effects: u can run a reverb and delay at same time

12 channels

just read the specs....u can usually find for about 500-600 $$$$


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Thry are both good... Google mackie forum then google yamaha forum.  The mackie forum has an 800 number for tech support  You could call sales or tech support at Mackie and get a pretty well unbiased opinon on yamaha or mackie They would tell you the advantages of both... With a serial number and and an email address they will send you the schematics on any product they have.  They return calls from tech support on Sundays if it warrants it.. Their mixers are from the low cost all features to more expensive pro types and they are all good and worth the money in the long haul...

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