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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:25 am 
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I have read a lot here about how Illegal Mp3g files are a taboo, Do you feel the same about software.

Have you used cracked software......

Is it ok as long as you are doing it in your own home??

Watta ya think out there??

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Hehehe, another can of worms :whistle:  Hi D!

Anyhow, back to your question. I used to use cracked software, but now-a-days there is so much shareware/freeware on the market that I have decided to walk the straight road. Software that I use as KJ is all legal, the rest is all shareware/freeware. So how do I feel? It's wrong, but that will not change the mind of others.


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Its the same as shoplifting The price of anything goes up as the profit decreases. Any software can be dongled so it is vitually impossible to "steal"it. But higher security sometimes puts a burden on the software which detracts from its market value...Vista anyone?

I would like to offer some opinions on licensed software. About 6 or 7 years ago I invested about $150 in Cavs player encoder and decoder. That was my first method of ripping etc. They came out with a newer player had more features but was a resource hog. To this day they still only have one graphics screen which means you dont have one on the computer monitor. I sometimes use the Cavs player to play cd's but other than that it is useless. Did it pay for itself?  Thousands of times over. If it had been modified and updated with typical needs I probably still would be using it. A softwares demise is not cracking it is the failure to adapt to the needs. (The updates and advantages keep ahead of the hackers and if someone is actually using it in a business it behooves an intial purchase)
 I couldnt list or remember all the licenses of stuff I have bought and no longer use this is a partial..

Print Shop Deluxe, Roxio Creator 5, Cdrwin, Win98, Sax & Dotty, Norton, McAfee, registry cleaners, 2 or 3 word editors, calendar makers, html editors, renamers, folderclones etc, recorders, and many more.

At the time they were worth the purchase and made money but now are obsolete.
Anybody ever use the Volkswriter word editor? It is all part of the game...

To get a crack on the latest update reqiuires long searches on sites like astalavista. After a few hours search it then takes several more hours to get rid of all the viruses .. Since my time is worth money it is cheaper to license and be using it making money instead of spending time trying to steal it...

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EElvis @ Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:25 am wrote:
I have read a lot here about how Illegal Mp3g files are a taboo, Do you feel the same about software.

Well, yeah some in here feel it is OK to use illegaly obtained files, since it dosn't really hurt anyone.
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Have you used cracked software......
NO, never had and never will.
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Is it ok as long as you are doing it in your own home??
Is it ok to cook up a batch of METH in your own home?  NO.  It still is illegal.
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Watta ya think out there??

Hackers, pirates, and crackers, and the people who use the stuff provided by hackers, pirates, and crackers, are all scum of the earth and should be banished to the most inhospitiable place on Earth and left tied to a stake to die.  If the scum out there actualy bought legally all the software and music that they have obtained illegally, perhaps that prices would be cheaper for the GOOD people, like me, that actualy buy what they need.

Hope that makes clear how I feel :wave:


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There isn't really a need for cracked software these days althought its VERY easy to come by. you can obtain cracks and serials for even the most obscure software with just a bit of searching in the right places.

I read such a funny story when windows XP came out about some guy who wrote a letter of complaint to a PC magazine about how he used to be able to install windows 98 on both his home computers but now with XP he couldn't....well duh!!!

This type of casual piracy is becoming less as companies try to protect themselves but it's certainly a problem for software vendors who are having to come up with new and inventive ways to protect themselves.

Unfortunetly it isn't so easy for the likes of music and video media.

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Wow, this looks like an interesting topic.  :wink:

IMO, do what suits YOU the best.... as long as you're not, er.... "really hurting anyone".

I don't use cracked software. (or, maybe I do and I'm lying?) I'm gonna stick with #1, I don't use it. I do use LOTS of freeware, everyone does.

And, somewhere along the lines, EVERYone has used SOMEthing illegally, wether they'll admit it or not. I don't use illegal download P2P or anything of the sort, I used to... but learned my lesson the hard way. (virally)  :D

I'm not one of the truly "good people" cause I've shared a few songs in my time, but for my honest opinion on software, I'd prefer to obtain it legally .... Just because, too many flamers out there willing to hunt you down just so they can be called a "good guy". And that can get irritating, and lead to a life of running & hiding.
Okay, I'm getting WAY too dramatic,  LOL , chalk it up to boredom.

(unless, of course, you have an interesting program you'd like to share with me? i don't mind it being a bit cracked)

>kidding, I'm kinda scummy like that, I joke alot...just ignore me<

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Thanks For the replys. My Thoughts exactly. But I have read of some of the most adamant posters on the Anti cdg pirate Realm, make comments about how they had tried cracked programs. To Me that makes them as Guilty as the cdg pirates. No Excuses.

I just wanted to get a reaction.

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EElvis @ Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:34 pm wrote:
To Me that makes them as Guilty as the cdg pirates. No Excuses.

I just wanted to get a reaction.


LOL

I think you got one...  :D

(really leaving now btw)


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I used to go to serialz2000 or whatever it's called to get serials to crack software...

It was mostly out of curiosity...sometimes to try a program I had heard about....Or once when I lost my WinampPro paid-for serial...I was really amazed at just how many apps and even how many versions of those apps were there.

Haven't been there in I don't know how long....Those cracked apps I tried got uninstalled long ago.

There really isn't much I need that isn't free now a days.

Oh,.....I stole a fishing lure from k-Mart once too when I was a kid.

I can't think of any more confessions........


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I used to go to serialz2000 or whatever it's called to get serials to crack software...



It it will divert you to a porno site; ...... no joke. I have been there. Weeks later the PC got sick from virus infection and had to reformat. No I don't want to go that way anymore there are tons of FREE programs in the net.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:11 pm 
I look at it this way.... If someone is smart enough to crack a program, they are smart enough to infect it too.    You take a chance.    

So use a condom on all of your cracked install discs. LMAO


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Bigdog @ Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:11 pm wrote:
I look at it this way.... If someone is smart enough to crack a program, they are smart enough to infect it too.    You take a chance.    

So use a condom on all of your cracked install discs. LMAO
A lot of 'cracks' you see on the web are simply valid key codes that people decide to share.

It's one thing to download the whole program(which can be infected), it's another to just use the 'cracked' serial.


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Soooo....... "Crack" is ok if you don't inhale?......

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EElvis @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:53 am wrote:
Soooo....... "Crack" is ok if you don't inhale?......
Yep,...just make sure you don't leave any residue on the blue dress either. LMAO


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Keith02 @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:30 pm wrote:
EElvis @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:53 am wrote:
Soooo....... "Crack" is ok if you don't inhale?......
Yep,...just make sure you don't leave any residue on the blue dress either. LMAO


NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!!!! LOL  LOL  LOL


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:15 am 
Hey, that stain was good for another four years of the same.... LMAO    Who's the dummy???????? :whistle:


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Once again sorry guys, a night of drink and frustration led to this post (and another)
I was led to believe in another forum that I would have to pay all over again and this is definately not the case.
Although it is still an issue that you can't just reinstall whenever you want (you can but you are in trial mode)  and you don't have the luxury of having a backup system like other software, I believe this software is worth it.
I re-bought 2 licenses (one for the backup pc) and am now (semi) happy.
I do recomend s&d as software, its not bloatware like so many other programs.
I did feel very disapointed as a paying customer to have so many restrictions when I know guys who cracked it can do whatever they like with it.
I still do hope that S&D take these restrictions off or it may drive people to the crack.
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Deal @ Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:23 pm wrote:
How do I feel? Well it depends on the developer.
I bought and paid for Sax an Dottys then was told I couldn't fresh reinstall it and if I did I would have to pay all over again!
I demanded my money back and got it.
So with that feeling in my belly I went straight to a crack and now have it for free.
My fault? Hell no!
I paid and was happy to pay but their bad business practices forced me to crack it.
I say screw Sax and Dottys, crack their asses whenever you can!
Cheers,
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We here don't subscribe to the idea of stealing any songs or software....And we sure don't suggest publicly here that anyone do that. I know you paid for the right to use the program and you feel entitled to crack it now, but that's between you and Sax N Dottys.

This cannot become a venue that discusses cracks or copyright enfringement....We here really depend on the CDG and software developers to keep us in business, so we meet them half way by paying for their work and not allowing folks to post info about how to crack their programs.

Your lesson with Sax N Dottys needs to be shared here, but please don't let your anger discredit and override your input. I truely appreciate that you revealed the fact if I purchase their program, then I might have to repurchase it to reinstall it later...All of us here need to hear those little details whenever we discuss software and hardware, so please keep them coming.

No, I ain't in charge around here, and I ain't trying to take charge and boss you or anyone else around.....Please just consider that I took the time to reveal some maybe unwritten rules and practices we here try to follow.

Karaoke Scene is a major player in the world of karaoke. They provide a great service to all interested in karaoke and many who make their living from it. Lots of what gets discussed here eventually has an impact on our business. You can believe CDG makers and software developers pay attention to what we say here. So try to keep your comments objective, and they will adjust their business to meet our demands if they hope to stay in business.

Bottom line is you have a valid gripe about Sax N Dottys and how they presently work their licensing and activation. Nobody should have to pay twice for anything, huh? Especially when there is free software that does the same thing. So don't invalidate your opinion by telling folks here you cracked it. Sax N Dottys went to their current registration and activation process because of folks cracking their software...Maybe thay will see now that they need to rethink their solution and implement a way for buyers to reinstall for free.

Myself, I have a real problem with one Hosting developer in particular. I spout off here about their business attitude and practices on a regular basis....But I never suggest a way to crack their software to meet my preferences/needs....I'd rather force them to give me my $$'s worth and then allow them to fully enjoy my money, cause I know if they can please me they will please lots more like me and everyone will be happy and profitable.

Please return and post your experiences with your new hosting software. Be objective and share the good and bad points with us.


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Deal @ Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:23 pm wrote:
How do I feel? Well it depends on the developer.
I bought and paid for Sax an Dottys then was told I couldn't fresh reinstall it and if I did I would have to pay all over again!
I demanded my money back and got it.
So with that feeling in my belly I went straight to a crack and now have it for free.
My fault? Hell no!
I paid and was happy to pay but their bad business practices forced me to crack it.
I say screw Sax and Dottys, crack their asses whenever you can!
Cheers,
Rob


NOT TRUE, SAX will give you fresh codes for re-installations.


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