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If an ascap rep walked into my mother's funeral I would kill him.....

Everything that was created, someone owns the rights to. A photograph, poem, birthday card, pottery, music, invention, slogan on a tee shirt, you name it someone controls the rights to that item, with either a copyright or a patent.

f you killed the ASCAP rep, you would have to pay for his music. LMAO

Well, yeah.... people do copywrite their own variation of the song.... but all that means is that I could do one too, in my own way, using the same lyrics and melody... just do my own musical arrangement of it- and copywrite that one as well.

Do a Great Speckled Bird for me willya

Most people would NOT know that song Ollie, unless they've been around that kind of music. I'm betting you know alot of the old fiddle songs. (I mean, to be able to pull that one out of your hat....)

Thats one of my sig songs I have had old timers cry when I sing that song young people go absolutely bannanas..

Flatt & Scrugs Bill Monroe Roy Clark and a few others I cant think of I probably have more blue grass than anybody

Check ur mailbox..

Author:	karyoker [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:08 am ]
Post subject:	Funeral Music
In a few vague references on the web to ascap Scan down to Enforcement: When ascap gets karaoke "cleaned up" then they will go after the funeral industry.... Thoughts? If an ascap rep walked into my mother's funeral I would kill him.....

Author:	Charmin_Gibson [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:37 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
I'm with you Ollie....... That would be an all time low for the music industry. I too would be inclined to make sure THEY left in a casket as well. That would just be.... tacky, and what really would it gain them? Wonder if they've though of High School Graduation ceremonies? >Or, should I have typed that here?< :shock: .

Author:	Steven Kaplan [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
Quote: If an ascap rep walked into my mother's funeral I would kill him..... How many of those cases would make it to a docket ? That's just plain tacky

Author:	Guest [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:45 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
Everything that was created, someone owns the rights to. A photograph, poem, birthday card, pottery, music, invention, slogan on a tee shirt, you name it someone controls the rights to that item, with either a copyright or a patent. So everyone that wants to use said items for profit, needs to obtain the legal rights to use them. It is their means of getting royalties on that item. Which they deserve. If it was your invention or creation, you would expect the same. So inforcement groups were created to help those individuals to collect all of the money that is due to them. Some individuals have come up with unique ways of getting out of paying all of the money owed. Perfect example is elevator music. They take songs that were very popular and get a studio orchestra (paid hourly) to play them. Since it is not the original recording, no singer/artist needs to be paid, just like in karaoke music, they buy the rights from the publishing company to use the song for "X" amount of copies. It doesn't matter where the said items are used. If it is used for profit, someone has to pay and permission must be granted.

Author:	Charmin_Gibson [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
BigDog.... Point is, we're talking a FUNERAL here. I can see someone saying: "Yeah, Grandpa had life insurance to cover his funeral expenses, but it's gonna take the family years to pay off his debt to Ascap for playing Amazing Grace at his funeral" (bad example I know, Amazing Grace I believe is public, but it's just an example) Signed, ~BSBCB :twisted: .

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Author:	Steven Kaplan [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
Quote: Everything that was created, someone owns the rights to. A photograph, poem, birthday card, pottery, music, invention, slogan on a tee shirt, you name it someone controls the rights to that item, with either a copyright or a patent. Is a funeral a "public performance" ? There are certain exemptions to that ruling. Don't those laws just pertain to "Public Performance " Bigdog ? I understand technically certain things are illegal, but to bust for certain things as also going a little too far IMHO.. Based upon principle can work either way.. That's the problem for both sides in such a case

Author:	karyoker [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
Its on the list 557 times its on the list...

Author:	Steven Kaplan [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:00 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
Ollie, Churches have been busted at PRIVATE funerals for playing music without obtaining permission from the owner of the copyright ?

Author:	maninblack [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:00 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
Hmmmm, well so much for playing Alice Coopers 'I Love The Dead' or Guns N Roses 'I Use To Love Her' party poopers. James Maninblack And yes I know my comments were in bad taste, but no worse than ASCAP showing up at a funeral.

Author:	karyoker [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
What if its in a church? This is America people....

Author:	Guest [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:08 am ]
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Who makes more money than funeral directors? I think Bill Gates comes in after them. LMAO

Author:	karyoker [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
Put my ashes on the 3rd bar stool from the end at the horse and play anything you want folks We paid for it over and over and over. And have a shot of butterball and a bud lite for me.

Author:	Guest [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:36 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
If you killed the ASCAP rep, you would have to pay for his music.

Author:	karyoker [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:42 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
Quote: f you killed the ASCAP rep, you would have to pay for his music. LMAO LOL LOL

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Author:	Charmin_Gibson [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:16 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
karyoker @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:54 am wrote: Its on the list 557 times its on the list... Well, yeah.... people do copywrite their own variation of the song.... but all that means is that I could do one too, in my own way, using the same lyrics and melody... just do my own musical arrangement of it- and copywrite that one as well. It is a public domain song. But now I'm going kinda off topic. (something I rarely, if ever, do) :D It just hit me, when I clicked on that link and typed in "amazing grace" what your post was in reference to. (and yup... 557 times) .

Author:	karyoker [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:20 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
Quote: Well, yeah.... people do copywrite their own variation of the song.... but all that means is that I could do one too, in my own way, using the same lyrics and melody... just do my own musical arrangement of it- and copywrite that one as well. Do a Great Speckled Bird for me willya

Author:	karyoker [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
Quote: Most people would NOT know that song Ollie, unless they've been around that kind of music. I'm betting you know alot of the old fiddle songs. (I mean, to be able to pull that one out of your hat....) Thats one of my sig songs I have had old timers cry when I sing that song young people go absolutely bannanas.. Flatt & Scrugs Bill Monroe Roy Clark and a few others I cant think of I probably have more blue grass than anybody Check ur mailbox..

Author:	Charmin_Gibson [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Funeral Music
karyoker @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:04 pm wrote: Thats one of my sig songs I have had old timers cry when I sing that song young people go absolutely bannanas.. Flatt & Scrugs Bill Monroe Roy Clark and a few others I cant think of I probably have more blue grass than anybody Check ur mailbox.. Oh yes, I know most old timers love to hear those songs. When we play with the old time fiddlers for a senior center, my dad usually gets alot of requests for old tunes like that. It's one of the old classics, for those who know bluegrass music. That song is almost the same exact melody of one I sing called "It Wasn't God Who Made Honky Tonk Angels"... by Kitty Wells. So hey, why don't YOU sing it, and sub it here? I'd love to hear it... Got the mail.... .