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 Post subject: Funeral Music
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:08 am 
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In a few vague references on  the   web to ascap Scan down to Enforcement:

When ascap gets karaoke "cleaned  up" then they will go after the funeral industry....

Thoughts?

If an ascap rep walked into my mother's funeral I would kill him.....


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I'm with you Ollie.......

That would be an all time low for the music industry.

I too would be inclined to make sure THEY left in a casket as well.

That would just be.... tacky, and what really would it gain them?

Wonder if they've though of High School Graduation ceremonies?

>Or, should I have typed that here?<  :shock:


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If an ascap rep walked into my mother's funeral I would kill him.....


How many of those cases would make it to a docket ?  That's just plain tacky

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 Post subject: Re: Funeral Music
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:45 am 
Everything that was created, someone owns the rights to.    A photograph, poem, birthday card, pottery, music, invention, slogan on a tee shirt, you name it someone controls the rights to that item, with either a copyright or a patent.    So everyone that wants to use said items for profit, needs to obtain the legal rights to use them.   It is their means of getting royalties on that item.  Which they deserve.    If it was your invention or creation, you would expect the same.    So inforcement groups were created to help those individuals to collect all of the money that is due to them.   Some individuals have come up with unique ways of getting out of paying all of the money owed.    Perfect example is elevator music.   They take songs that were very popular and get a studio orchestra (paid hourly) to play them.  Since it is not the original recording, no singer/artist needs to be paid, just like in karaoke music, they buy the rights from the publishing company to use the song for "X" amount of copies.    It doesn't matter where the said items are used.   If it is used for profit, someone has to pay and permission must be granted.


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BigDog....

Point is, we're talking a FUNERAL here.

I can see someone saying:

"Yeah, Grandpa had life insurance to cover his funeral expenses, but it's gonna take the family years to pay off his debt to Ascap for playing Amazing Grace at his funeral"

(bad example I know, Amazing Grace I believe is public, but it's just an example)

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Everything that was created, someone owns the rights to.    A photograph, poem, birthday card, pottery, music, invention, slogan on a tee shirt, you name it someone controls the rights to that item, with either a copyright or a patent.



Is a funeral a "public performance" ?    There are certain exemptions to that ruling. Don't those laws just pertain to "Public Performance " Bigdog ?  I understand technically certain things are illegal, but to bust for certain things as also going a little too far IMHO..   Based upon principle can work either way..  That's the problem for both sides in such a case

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Its on the list 557 times its on the list...


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Ollie,  Churches have been busted at PRIVATE funerals for playing music without obtaining permission from the owner of the copyright ?

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 Post subject: Re: Funeral Music
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Hmmmm, well so much for playing Alice Coopers 'I Love The Dead'
or Guns N Roses 'I Use To Love Her'
party poopers. :D

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And yes I know my comments were in bad taste, but no worse than ASCAP showing up at a funeral.

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 Post subject: Re: Funeral Music
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What if its in a church?   This is America people....


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 Post subject: Re: Funeral Music
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:08 am 
Who makes more money than funeral directors?    I think Bill Gates comes in after them.    LMAO


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Put my ashes on the 3rd bar stool from the end at the horse and play anything you want folks We paid for it over and over and over. And have a shot of butterball and a bud lite for me. LOL


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Hey Bigdog,  you might want to get your butt out've Lebanon ASAP.

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 Post subject: Re: Funeral Music
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:36 am 
If you killed the ASCAP rep, you would have to pay for his music. LMAO


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f you killed the ASCAP rep, you would have to pay for his music. LMAO



LMAO  LMAO  LOL  LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Funeral Music
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karyoker @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:54 am wrote:



Well, yeah.... people do copywrite their own variation of the song.... but all that means is that I could do one too, in my own way, using the same lyrics and melody... just do my own musical arrangement of it- and copywrite that one as well.

It is a public domain song.

But now I'm going kinda off topic. (something I rarely, if ever, do)  :D

It just hit me, when I clicked on that link and typed in "amazing grace" what your post was in reference to. (and yup... 557 times)

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Well, yeah.... people do copywrite their own variation of the song.... but all that means is that I could do one too, in my own way, using the same lyrics and melody... just do my own musical arrangement of it- and copywrite that one as well.



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karyoker @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:20 am wrote:

Do a Great Speckled Bird for me willya :)


Ya know what? I've known that song since I was in the cradle, my dad plays it on the fiddle. I'm sure I could learn it, it's a very pretty song....

Maybe I'll dig up a recording of it, and try to. (but- only by ear- so don't expect too much, lollll)

Most people would NOT know that song Ollie, unless they've been around that kind of music. I'm betting you know alot of the old fiddle songs. (I mean, to be able to pull that one out of your hat....)

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Most people would NOT know that song Ollie, unless they've been around that kind of music. I'm betting you know alot of the old fiddle songs. (I mean, to be able to pull that one out of your hat....)



Thats one of my sig songs I have had old timers cry when I sing that song young people go absolutely bannanas..

Flatt & Scrugs Bill Monroe Roy Clark and a few others I cant think of I probably have more blue grass than anybody

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karyoker @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:04 pm wrote:
 Thats one of my sig songs I have had old timers cry when I sing that song young people go absolutely bannanas..

Flatt & Scrugs Bill Monroe Roy Clark and a few others I cant think of I probably have more blue grass than anybody

Check ur mailbox.. :)


Oh yes, I know most old timers love to hear those songs. When we play with the old time fiddlers for a senior center, my dad usually gets alot of requests for old tunes like that.  It's one of the old classics, for those who know bluegrass music.

That song is almost the same exact melody of one I sing called "It Wasn't God Who Made Honky Tonk Angels"... by Kitty Wells.

So hey, why don't YOU sing it, and sub it here? I'd love to hear it...

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