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Chuck2
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:29 am |
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I have seen people handle being flamed in a variety of ways. Starting with flaming the flamer, all the way to ignoring the flamer.
Is there a way that you recomend to handle being flamed?
I am not so much into sticking to the topic and I don't expect this one to have very many true responses. Let's just have fun with it.
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fiery
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:16 am |
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I have never been properly flamed I guess... but I have had someone complain about my singing on a sub. It was the first and only time it has happened (and it wasn't here), so I really didn't know how to deal with that. I thought about what had been said and addressed the part that bothered me, which drew another response (immediately) from that person. I guess I probably shouldn't have said anything, but at the same time I felt a need to defend my work. I think from now on I will just shut up and hope the person goes away .
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Chuck2
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:49 am |
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fierynette @ Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:16 am wrote: I have never been properly flamed I guess... but I have had someone complain about my singing on a sub. It was the first and only time it has happened (and it wasn't here), so I really didn't know how to deal with that. I thought about what had been said and addressed the part that bothered me, which drew another response (immediately) from that person. I guess I probably shouldn't have said anything, but at the same time I felt a need to defend my work. I think from now on I will just shut up and hope the person goes away . I have not been flamed here yet, that happened to me on another site. I didn't belong there anyway.
I'll bet if you ask for critique on your subs and ask that they submit it by pm, you will get honest and fair responses, of course I could be wrong.
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Charmin_Gibson
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:07 am |
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You come out swinging, that's how you handle it. :whistle:
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_________________ ♥ Laugh your heart out, dance in the rain. Cherish the memories, ignore the pain. Love and learn, forget and forgive. Because you only have one life to live. ♥
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Shunn
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:39 am |
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Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:00 pm Posts: 637 Songs: 48 Location: Texas Been Liked: 0 time
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AtM @ Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:29 am wrote: I have seen people handle being flamed in a variety of ways. Starting with flaming the flamer, all the way to ignoring the flamer. Is there a way that you recomend to handle being flamed? I am not so much into sticking to the topic and I don't expect this one to have very many true responses. Let's just have fun with it.
What is being flamed?
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Chuck2
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:42 am |
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Jeffieoke @ Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:39 pm wrote: AtM @ Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:29 am wrote: I have seen people handle being flamed in a variety of ways. Starting with flaming the flamer, all the way to ignoring the flamer. Is there a way that you recomend to handle being flamed? I am not so much into sticking to the topic and I don't expect this one to have very many true responses. Let's just have fun with it. What is being flamed? When someone deliberately makes a rude or mean post aimed at you. It often contains explitives.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:22 am |
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:48 pm Posts: 13645 Been Liked: 11 times
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Depends on the person, strategy they have a tendency to use, whether or not the person is actually flaming you, or urinating against a strong wind continuing to actually make themselves look like the blathering Jacka$$ most know they are. Sometimes ignoring completely is the best response, other times assuming I inadvertently said something that was easily misconstrued, If it's a person I respect, I'll back down, and discuss it... Get an America Online account for 14 years, learn about moderating America Online rooms, how to deal with snerts/trolls etc... go into neo-nazi NON-moderated rooms trying to take on a room, go into KKK rooms cracking jokes about their mothers... After a few week's (assuming you aren't easily traceable) and haven't divulged enough info for someone to make a trip out, (only to find you live in a gated community anyway with armed security assuming they decide to do enough research) you become so used to death threats and threats of bodily harm, you end up getting TOS'D for playing even that game better than the other blathering imbecile.. Once you lose all fear of online characters in such a setting, You actually look forward to getting flamed, and start rooms for that purpose.... special interests---> member's formed-- -> Flaming room- no holds barred.....
Eventually, you get sick of that stuff, and realize that noone really can flame you online... and realistically after having gone thru several credit cards to open new accounts with different info, the outcome of an internet fight is usually something like this
person 1) Yeah ?
Person 2) Yeah !
Person 1) What's your address and phone number hotshot ?
Person 2) Why, so you can call me up at 4AM in a drunken stupor breathing heavily
while I'm trying to score with your mom ?
person 1) I don't tolerate people talking like that about my mother
person 2) oh my, now he's flexing his internet muscles... I think I might be
breaking out in a cold sweat, please, somebody hold me...
person 1) Send's Instant Message getting all "cyber scary" and stuff with threats.
person 2) setting person #1 up for TOS, forwards threatening IM's to TOS dept.
This either goes on and on until somebody suddenly get's quiet time, returning and complaining about how much of a coward person 2 is for TOS'ing him for sending threatening Emails... which at that point Person 1 laughs hysterically saying, Aww, poor guy likes to pick fight's, and expects the other person to fight in his style... All is fair LOSER..... Now enjoy resetting your passwords and don't forget, I don't like you, and will fight to be most effective, because all is fair you dumb####..
That's one scenerio, the others are ALOT more boring...
I used to have a blast, 4 computers, on a router, I'd have four way flame-wars alone, I'd start flaming myself... What's funny, was watching who'd get involved trying to befriend certain other SN's I was using against the ME they hated in that room, usually cowardly people would try gang-banging me siding with ME while I bashed ME.... Naturally, I did the proper thing, and all four of me turned on them I've had a blast flaming, for fun, and for prophet.... But the bottomline is there get's to be a point, where you really get tired of it, realize NOONE can do anything....This is just a form of roadrage..... yet it's safer.... Don't give out your actual address, and don't do or say anything you wouldn't do or say while in a bar brawl.... Sure people can track you down if they really want too... Yet taking risks like that as a single male who for some reason has no fear of people (Except cops), I have to do something for a cheap thrill.... I wouldn't recommend a steady diet of flaming unless you are willing to take a chance, and are playing really good odd's that nothing can really come of it..... Again, it's a poker game... Yet in most cases......Flaming is so easy to deal with, it brings out the young preteen in me, and gives me a chance to apply some logic skill....
So after all that, I get sick of playing games on America Online, and get tired of the ongoing diatribe, and sophomorish quips, and ad hom exchanges... and come into a moderated room such as this to keep me in line, and minimize my chances of having to put up with some ego-challenged person who just needs to get under someones skin because misery demands company....
I used to live for flame wars, I'd start fights, sort've a research project..... Than I figured it'd be more clever to stage my own fights with four of me on a router.... I got pretty good, lately, I don't have the energy anymore.....
Kid's in school have it tough, they have to worry about the "real bully", if somebody flames me online, or should I say "attempts to flame me"... I'm the fool if I let something so small get to me, because realistically, if getting flamed in type in such an anonymous setting is the worst thing that happens to me this summer, it's been a GREAT summer !
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Isis
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:43 am |
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I fight fire with data...People sometimes don't know what they are talking about and I think they will flame you cause they think you don't know what you are talking about...Does that make sense??
If there is a good debate going on I'll do some quick research and post the links to the information.....Ussually shuts them up...
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Chuck2
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:46 am |
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Isis @ Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:43 pm wrote: I fight fire with data...People sometimes don't know what they are talking about and I think they will flame you cause they think you don't know what you are talking about...Does that make sense??
If there is a good debate going on I'll do some quick research and post the links to the information.....Ussually shuts them up... I disagree, Sharon, Mainly because I think you don't know what you're talking about. Let's see some proof from a reputable source.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:04 am |
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:48 pm Posts: 13645 Been Liked: 11 times
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Quote: If there is a good debate going on I'll do some quick research and post the links to the information.....Ussually shuts them up...
Oldest trick in the book, doesn't work.. If something seems quoted, I copy your quote in question, feed it into search engine, and your source comes up...
Hint, ALWAYS change the phrasing just a bit if you wish to go that route...
I've moderated debate and philosophy forums, and those that wannabe are usually taken for a ride, we never let them know we are onto them at first LMAO When some 17 year old jr in High School start's talking like Goethe, yet uses basic terminology in wrong context, we have a blast...
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Shunn
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:17 am |
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Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:00 pm Posts: 637 Songs: 48 Location: Texas Been Liked: 0 time
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I usually go write a paper on the subject and then send them a copy by Fed Ex myself. I find that doesn't work at all though, really.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:26 am |
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:48 pm Posts: 13645 Been Liked: 11 times
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Oh man, My sentence structure above is so far off, I'm going to have to go castigate my fingers again ! Damn multi-tasking.
_________________ Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".
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Gilly
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:49 pm |
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I know, aren't I a terrible "flamer"? Well, i am when I fart and light it.
If someone is rude to ME, i just take it, and continue on with my life, what other people think of me, doesn't change my own opinion:) (And I think highly of myself;)
I also think that SOME people, don't understand the real meaning of being "flamed".... *cough* ehem....
Anyways, What do you guys do in REAL life? Throw a fit? B!TCH slap em? get your friends to gang up on 'em? Tell them off? Run away crying?
For example..... My neighbors started a rumor around the neighborhood that I threatened to torture their child..... (They accused me of threatening to dismember her) I laughed it off (i babysit these kids everyday.... for free), i KNOW that if I had had a fit, and screamed at them, that it would have been worse.... as it stands now, the rest of the neighborhood thinks that THEY are nuts, and all side with me, and congratulate ME, on being more mature than they. And hey... i guess they will have to find a new babysitter:) (Besides, if i DID threaten them, they would be hiding and rocking in a closet...... not cuddling and hugging me:)
DOne now.
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Shunn
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:28 pm |
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I worked at Burger King when I was in high school and our burgers were flame broiled, but only on one side(!) So they were only half flamed. In the words of the Human Torch (Fantastic Four), "Flame On!"
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knightshow
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:19 pm |
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me personally, I stop "starting" new threads! :shock:
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Chuck2
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:16 am |
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Gilly @ Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:49 pm wrote: I know, aren't I a terrible "flamer"? Well, i am when I fart and light it.
If someone is rude to ME, i just take it, and continue on with my life, what other people think of me, doesn't change my own opinion:) (And I think highly of myself;)
I also think that SOME people, don't understand the real meaning of being "flamed".... *cough* ehem....
Anyways, What do you guys do in REAL life? Throw a fit? B!TCH slap em? get your friends to gang up on 'em? Tell them off? Run away crying?
For example..... My neighbors started a rumor around the neighborhood that I threatened to torture their child..... (They accused me of threatening to dismember her) I laughed it off (i babysit these kids everyday.... for free), i KNOW that if I had had a fit, and screamed at them, that it would have been worse.... as it stands now, the rest of the neighborhood thinks that THEY are nuts, and all side with me, and congratulate ME, on being more mature than they. And hey... i guess they will have to find a new babysitter:) (Besides, if i DID threaten them, they would be hiding and rocking in a closet...... not cuddling and hugging me:)
DOne now. In my short time here and on another forum, I learned about a few methods for flaming. I have yet to be flamed here but it could happen. The people on the other forum have gone as far as ganging up on me, taking everything I say and rewording it. There were some much more extreme as well. I really don't consider myself an expert on flaming or on anything else for that matter. I have encouraged it a few times by returning the same kind of attitude that they gave me. If it gets me kicked off another site, oh well.
I have first hand experience with a lot of different kinds of abuse, not all kinds but have had at least my share.
I handle things in the best way I can with the mental resources that I have left.
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Shunn
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:43 am |
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When I was about 17 I brought a bunch of fireworks home to Minnesota on the plane, which had I been caught (stupid little bastard that I was) would have been a felony (course I was 17 so it was iffey). But I brought some sky monkees out to the pond on our land and my step sister and I shot them off. Once the last of the fireworks were gone my step sister started throwing matches on the very dry ground, causing little fires to spring up. I would jump on them and put them out, we were both laughing and I was cursing her for being an idiot at the same time. But then she did too many and an actual fire sprung up real quick. I jumped into the middle of it (it was about two feet across but was five feet high and growing quick. I jumped out of that fire because I could not get it out. We went to the house and filled containers full of water and somehow we managed to get it out. I burned off my eyebrows, eyelids, ruined my cowboy boots and jeans, which had caught fire at the very bottom. Hindsite is 20-20 vision but I should have smacked her. She would have burned down at least two houses had we not got that out. Of course jumping into a fire is not too bright but it worked up to that point. I was nearly FLAMED. (true but stupid story)
Jeffie says....only you can prevent eyebrow fires!
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Chuck2
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:41 am |
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knightshow @ Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:19 pm wrote: me personally, I stop "starting" new threads! :shock: I should really give that some more thought.
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Shunn
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:40 am |
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No, you're doing good. Start another one so I can misunterpret that one too. It's like a secret code to me.
"He must really mean this....." :yes: [schild=5 fontcolor=0000FF shadowcolor=C0C0C0 shieldshadow=1]Green's Horny![/schild]
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MsFit
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:40 am |
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AtM @ Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:41 am wrote: knightshow @ Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:19 pm wrote: me personally, I stop "starting" new threads! :shock: I should really give that some more thought.
....while you're in the thinking mode think up some more thread starters...the regular posters are having a lot of fun and seems we also get quite a few lurkers
so they must be enjoying them too...
speaking of....hi matt
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