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Author:  Isis [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:09 am ]
Post subject:  Flying the flag

Flying the US flag has been banned at the High school in Longview CO as well flags from other countries.  

I think as American living in our own country we should be able to fly the flag whenever we choose to do so.  

What do you think??

<edit>  Here is the link to the story:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 951S08.DTL

Author:  timberlea [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

What reason did they state for not flying flags.

Author:  Isis [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

The recent protest of the immigration laws

Author:  timberlea [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

I'd take away their funding.  It's ridiculous, but then again I live in a country where they allow separists in the federal government.

Author:  Odie [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

Isis @ Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:31 am wrote:
The recent protest of the immigration laws


Now I saw news reports where hispanics were protesting and flying the Mexico flag.
Is this ruling a reaction to the Mexico flag flying?  They decided to restrict all flag flying completely?

Author:  robdogkaraoke [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

timberlea @ Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:14 am wrote:
I'd take away their funding.  It's ridiculous, but then again I live in a country where they allow separists in the federal government.



So true timberlea

Author:  Isis [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

I'm sorry I should have posted the link in the first post.  Here it is:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 951S08.DTL

Author:  Odie [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

Isis @ Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:01 pm wrote:
I'm sorry I should have posted the link in the first post.  Here it is:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 951S08.DTL


""When it involves the American flag and its abuse in vilifying other people, we simply will not tolerate it," Stumpf said. "They were using the symbol derisively as misguided patriotism."

I have to agree with this statement.  Flying the flag as a sign of pride and respect for your country is one thing, but to use it to intimidate others in a malicious way is not a good thing. This goes for both sides.  You're just adding fuel to the fire.  High schools are not the place for "political warfare".

Author:  timberlea [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

Now that I've read the link, it's definitely different from the initial post.  I thought it was not flying the flag from the shcool's flag pole.  After reading the link, a totally different thing.

Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

Quote:
as well as flags from other countries — amid racial tensions following immigration rallies.


Skyline High School Principal Tom Stumpf said American flags were brazenly waved in the faces of Hispanic students and in one case a Mexican flag was thrown into the face of another student.


"When it involves the American flag and its abuse in vilifying other people, we simply will not tolerate it," Stumpf said. "They were using the symbol derisively as misguided patriotism."



What they are stating is that the US Flag AND other nations flags IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE are being used as symbols representing bigotry, and hate amidst racial tension. What they are doing, is refusing to allow our flag to be used in a racist context, or used to malign other nations people, It's not meant to represent hate.  What they are doing is EXTREMELY responsible in this case.  They are trying to preserve our flag and make sure it's hung respectfully and with honor.  Not prevent it's being displayed, students are also being suspended during this process for biased crime (I suppose).. They are throwing the flag in mexican students faces as if to say,  "we are better than you", and Vice Versa..... The flag should be displayed honorably,  not as a racist symbol.  We don't need our flag to be used as a Swastika !!!!


JMO

Author:  Odie [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

Steven Kaplan @ Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:26 pm wrote:
Quote:
as well as flags from other countries — amid racial tensions following immigration rallies.


Skyline High School Principal Tom Stumpf said American flags were brazenly waved in the faces of Hispanic students and in one case a Mexican flag was thrown into the face of another student.


"When it involves the American flag and its abuse in vilifying other people, we simply will not tolerate it," Stumpf said. "They were using the symbol derisively as misguided patriotism."



What they are stating is that the US Flag AND other nations flags IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE are being used as symbols representing bigotry, and hate amidst racial tension. What they are doing, is refusing to allow our flag to be used in a racist context, or used to malign other nations people, It's not meant to represent hate.  What they are doing is EXTREMELY responsible in this case.  They are trying to preserve our flag and make sure it's hung respectfully and with honor.  Not prevent it's being displayed, students are also being suspended during this process for biased crime (I suppose).. They are throwing the flag in mexican students faces as if to say,  "we are better than you", and Vice Versa..... The flag should be displayed honorably,  not as a racist symbol.  We don't need our flag to be used as a Swastika !!!!


JMO


Yes! That is correct sir!

Author:  pinkrose [ Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

Odie @ Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:48 pm wrote:
Steven Kaplan @ Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:26 pm wrote:
Quote:
as well as flags from other countries — amid racial tensions following immigration rallies.


Skyline High School Principal Tom Stumpf said American flags were brazenly waved in the faces of Hispanic students and in one case a Mexican flag was thrown into the face of another student.


"When it involves the American flag and its abuse in vilifying other people, we simply will not tolerate it," Stumpf said. "They were using the symbol derisively as misguided patriotism."



What they are stating is that the US Flag AND other nations flags IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE are being used as symbols representing bigotry, and hate amidst racial tension. What they are doing, is refusing to allow our flag to be used in a racist context, or used to malign other nations people, It's not meant to represent hate.  What they are doing is EXTREMELY responsible in this case.  They are trying to preserve our flag and make sure it's hung respectfully and with honor.  Not prevent it's being displayed, students are also being suspended during this process for biased crime (I suppose).. They are throwing the flag in mexican students faces as if to say,  "we are better than you", and Vice Versa..... The flag should be displayed honorably,  not as a racist symbol.  We don't need our flag to be used as a Swastika !!!!


JMO


Yes! That is correct sir!



Ditto :)

Author:  knightshow [ Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flying the flag

they're not banning "FLYING" the American Flag or others, but instead maliciously waving it in front of people's faces. This becomes a personal attack, and the rules of citizenship are that the flag is NEVER supposed to be a weapon, not even an ideological one.

The students were wrong in doing so. I understand their frustration, but they should have just heeded the lesson from the principal.

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