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I was eyeing on the Mackies then my wife got these from a friend instead:

- Behringer UB1622FX-PRO mixer
- Crown CE1000

What PA speakers would you recommend?  The system will be only for home use (~1000 sq. ft. basement) and 10 people max.  The CE1000 rates 275W rms @ 8ohm.

... and what do you think BBE 362 or 882i with this sytem?  Is 362 enough?

Thanks!

Couple Mackie C300z will work nice.  http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Speakers?sku=605269

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Well the 882 is a dual mono design - separate controls for each side & is balanced via XLR cables.
The 362 is a stereo design using 1 set of controls for both sides.  Not balanced but not that big of a deal in a small system like your outline (not a dig), I would connect it via the insert jack for the main output on the mixer.  
The processors in both are basically the same so which ever you choose will work.

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Thanks Lonman.

Just picked up an BBE 362 off eBay.  Any other sub $300 PA speaker you can recommend?  My budget shrunk from buying a new home stereo system this week.  :O

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=601201

Sub $300 per.....would work fine in a home situation.

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I agree with the S112V speakers, but would also recommend the Yamaha BR12s for a VERY similar speaker for $80 less each. The BR12 is made with sligtly less quality components than the S112Vs, which are made to stand up to being moved all the time (professional/tour grade). The BR12s are certainly high quality speakers themselves, though!

I run 2 Yamaha S115Vs as my mains and a Yamaha BR12 as my monitor in my pro karaoke show. The BR12 sounds great, has thumping bass, and has stood up now for 2 years with no problems. They would sound great for your main cabs for home use at $220 a speaker. Here's the link:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=601212

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I have the UB1204 (smaller version of the 1622) and use 4 Behring B300 powered speakers with it.  (also have a dual channel 15 band eq and FB eliminator too)

If for home use, and you don't have the amp purchased yet, consider the B-300.  Al you ahe to do is plig them into a 110v outlet, and run a thin mic cable from the mixer to the speaker.

If you have the AMP alread purchased I would suggest either the Behringer B1520, b1220, or b1020 speakers.

For home use, I realy don't think you will need a SUB.  I have the B1520s and play in several smaller bars with them.  There is MORE than enough bass, without a sub.

You can also buy packageed systems such as....
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=600613
OR
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=600612

It's all up to you.

He said he has the amp.  My opinion on the Behringers is the are very tinny sounding.  I know a company that was running them & they were almost piercing on the ears.

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HMMM...no offense, but didn't you even read the initial question (which you also quoted in your post? He has a Crown CE1000 amp, 275 watts into 8ohms...

twansenne, I always hear pretty good reviews of Behinger equipment, but they are always along the lines of "good value" and not particularly good equipment. Your mixer will be fine, btu I'd stay away from Behringer speakers for reliability and performance. You don't have to take my recommendation of Yamaha speakers (which I personally think are the best line of performance vs. price in the industry), but I wouldn't go the Behringer route with speakers.

Buying Behringer speakers would be the equivilent of going out and buying a Humayunsuki Television (I made that name up by the way, but you get the point). Sure there may be 3 out of 5 peeps that have no problems with them, but the fact is that they are made with the cheapest components available and a greater % of them go bad compared to other manufacturers.

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I think you're giving too much credit there.

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And since when does cheap components ALWAYS mean less quality?  I can buy a monster cable for $100 or buy the same quality components, and assemble them for 1/2 the price.  Why?  You are paying for a name.

And show anywhere that the % of stuff going bad is greater than any other manufacture.  Numbers, not just conjecture.

Personal I own 8 (four B300 and four 1520), been using them for almost 3 years, and have only had one B300 go bad.  I have used them to play all sizes of venues, and even outdoor parties, and they preform as good as any other speakers I have heard or used.  I also know of 3 others that use behring speakers, and have never had any problems.

A local audiophile, that has his own business for 30 years, installing, and building audio systems for churches/schools/clubs/ect...  Has now quit building his own speaker cabs, becasue in his words "Behringer can do it for cheaper for me."  He now uses all behringer equipment, mixers/speakers/lighting controlls/ect...

Yes, you can get bad equipment from Behringer, but you can also get bad equipment from any manufacture of anything.  What is the proving factor, is if it goes bad, will manufacture repair it?  When the B300 took a crap, I had a new one in 5 days!

Sounds like operator error, not bad speakers.  I have hear Crate and JBL that sound tinny too, does that mean they are not good speakers?  NO, it means it is probably operator error.

Put them side by side with a good Mackie, JBL, even Peavey SP series & you can tell a difference.  I admit that I looked at them & did some serious comparisons & they just didn't sound good.   If you like them & they work for you - great.  I was giving my opinion on them, for me they sound like crap!

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I was away for a few hours.... wow, thanks all for your valuable feedback!

I read the reviews on MF, and the users are mixed about Behringer quality.  I haven't owned one to raise opinion (will own one soon with the used UB1622FX).  If I have less than $400 to spend, I would definitely take a close look... along with the Peavey PR15.

Looks like this is how it boils down to:
- $600 budget:   Yamaha S112V  (S115V is not eligible for free shipping from MF)
- $500 budget:   Yamaha BR15 (extra bass?)
- under $500 :   Yamaha BR12

btw, what do you think about Peavey PR15 compared to these speakers?

The PR series is the lowest on the Peavey line.  They work, but are made with their lesser quality components.  To me they didn't have enough oomph & sounded kind of boxy, some here have them & think they are ok - for home use, may do just fine.  If you got a local store, go take a listen for yourself.  You can find a dealer through the Peavey website.  www.peavey.com
Remember your speakers are one of the biggest factors in how your sound is going to be, amp is another main factor - which the CE1000 is a good amp.

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... looking to try out these speakers @ Guitar Center this weekend.  If goes as plan, I'd go for the Yamaha S112V or BR15 price range.

You'll probably find the BR15 have a little better bass response & the S112 not so much but a little cleaner sounding.  Both good choices though & should work with the Crown amp fine.

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Lonman,

I found this Yamaha S115V on eBay about the same price as a pair of S112V from MF.  

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... RK:MEWA:IT

Can my Crown CE-1000 handle it?  You mentioned in previous threads that the amp should exceed the speaker's RMS for best sound and also prevent clipping.  For home use, I likely will not crank up too much.  Would you rather spend on the S115V?

Thanks again.

Personally for anything like speakers, amps and other audio equipment, it's probably better to go with the Musician's friends stuff over an ebay auction as you never know how the quality is or whewther or not they are working. Also you maight not have the warranty that Musician's Friend would have.