KARAOKE SCENE MAGAZINE ONLINE! - laptop hum? Public Forums Karaoke Discussions Karaoke Scene's Karaoke Forums Home | Contact Us | Site Map  

Karaoke Forums

Karaoke Scene Karaoke Forums

Karaoke Scene

   
  * Login
  * Register

  * FAQ
  * Search

Custom Search

Social Networks


premium-member

Offsite Links


It is currently Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:36 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: laptop hum?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:07 am 
Offline
Novice Poster
Novice Poster

Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2003 1:14 pm
Posts: 21
Location: Charleston ,SC U.S.A.
Been Liked: 0 time
anyone ever have a problem with laptop hum through your sytem when running your laptop with the power cord, not off of batteries? running my laptop into a karaoke mixer, then into a mackie mixing board, then to amp. and get a hum, only when i use the power cord> using battery power i don't not get a hum. any suggestions on how to fix?

_________________
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject: Re: laptop hum?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:58 am 
Offline
Extreme Plus Poster
Extreme Plus Poster
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 07, 2002 2:40 am
Posts: 7468
Location: Kansas City, MO
Been Liked: 1 time
do a search on the site for a "hum eliminator"... there's been some discussion about this here before!


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject: Re: laptop hum?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:57 am 
Yes, it is a common problem and I myself have to deal with it.

The easiest way is to lift the ground from the laptop where it plugs into the wall outlet. How do you do that? Simple, just use a 3 prong to 2 prong adapter that you can find at Walmart or any hardware store.

Be advised however that even this step may not resolve all noise coming from your laptop power supply....Some cheap-o laptop power supplies exhibit very poor voltage regulation and noise isolation, so you may still hear a little hiss when the music source goes quiet.

If you have purchased a laptop designed for multimedia/pro audio stage/studio purposes then there shouldn't be a problem. Most of us however don't need to spend that kind of money for KJ/DJ use.

The other option is to carry spare batteries where you would need to monitor battery condition and be ready to swap as needed.....Then you either need to go to wall power while swapping batteries or reboot and restart all programs after effecting the battery swap.

If you want lots more info and other possible fixes, then Google key words "laptop hum".


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: laptop hum?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:17 pm 
Offline
Extreme Plus Poster
Extreme Plus Poster
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 07, 2002 2:40 am
Posts: 7468
Location: Kansas City, MO
Been Liked: 1 time
that's true about the battery problem. A friend of mine runs MTU Hoster, and she'd get the hum, unless she ran off a battery. Finally found that she could hook up that hum eliminator I was talking about, and that solved some of the problem.

I have it too with a desktop... comes from poor grounding at the venue I'm at. Even going USB out, there's still a tiny hum along with the audio signal.

My next experiment is to try the eliminator and see if it resolves the issue!


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject: Re: laptop hum?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:08 pm 
Hum, along with all other unwanted noise including hiss is usually attributed to not just one, but several sources. So address unwanted noise as a war that will include several battles where each will involve a different tactic, but where all of the battles are winable.

As soon as you start interconnecting more than one piece of equipment you invite unwanted noise.

The answer is to become smart on the cause of noise and noise prevention. It's one thing to try to eliminate noise, it's another to prevent it.....Best solution is to prevent it.

Start with proper patch cables and gear selection. Never buy a piece of gear that does not incorporate fully balanced TRS and/or XLR connection jacks then always use fully balanced (shielded)patch cables to connect everything. Always try to plug everything into the same wall circuit and learn about proper gain structure.

Even the best matched and connected system can generate noise if you exceed the noise floor and dynamic range of your equipment, so really study your equipment specs and tweek the gain from mic to speakers.

Whin my system is idle, I can crank my mixer to unity all the way across the board with amps at full tilt and then hold my ear next to my mains and not hear even the slightest hum or hiss....That's sweet!


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: laptop hum?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:39 pm 
Offline
Super Extreme Poster
Super Extreme Poster
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm
Posts: 22978
Songs: 35
Images: 3
Location: Tacoma, WA
Been Liked: 2126 times
Keith01 @ Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:57 am wrote:
The easiest way is to lift the ground from the laptop where it plugs into the wall outlet. How do you do that? Simple, just use a 3 prong to 2 prong adapter that you can find at Walmart or any hardware store.


Also while this method is good for a "temporary" fix, is also very dangerous as it can open yourself up to electricution since the Earth ground is no longer connected & if any spike did happen to go through the system, it will hit anyone holding a mic.

_________________
LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
Image


Top
 Profile Personal album Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject: Re: laptop hum?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:13 pm 
Yep, but only the laptop ground would be lifted in this case.....My laptop is 100 percent plastic on the outside so it's 100 percent safe.


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: laptop hum?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:28 am 
Offline
Novice Poster
Novice Poster

Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2003 1:14 pm
Posts: 21
Location: Charleston ,SC U.S.A.
Been Liked: 0 time
purchased a "ground loop isolating cable" at radio shack & this got rid of 95% of the hum, thx, for the help.

_________________
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 684 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Privacy Policy | Anti-Spam Policy | Acceptable Use Policy Copyright © Karaoke Scene Magazine
design & hosting by Cross Web Tech