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Hello everyone,  

   I currently use a mackie dfx12 mixer along with 2 JBL eon G's. I'm now looking to add a monitor for the singers and would like to know if anyone has a suggestion on what would be a good monitor to purchase and how would it tie into the system? Also, I'm going to be adding a sub down the road. Thanks  :D

Get another powered JBL EON (regular series not G2).  Hook it up to the Aux 1 send on the mixer & then turn up the Aux 1 sends on the corresponding channels you want the monitor to hear (so to speak).  You'll also need to turn up the Aux 1/Mon send as well.  
You may want to consider a good eq between the mixer & monitor - this is where alot of feedback CAN occur & without an eq, you may find more hassle with a monitor than without.  But with an eq & properly set up, it's a huge benefit to any singer.

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And the most important watch your levels and tell singers not to point the mic down  or you'll get feedback.  I don't like monitors personally, however, to each their own.  With properly placed speakers you shouldn't need them.  For a band, a necessity.

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Thanks for your reply's,  

  Maybe I'll try adjusting the speakers. What would you recommend for a sub or would you recommend a sub. If so, would I connect it the same way as the monitor? Thanks  

As far as a sub, I won't run a show without one.  It gives a rounded out FULL sound that can make a difference between a good sound & great sound - again as long as it is not overdone.  Things you need to consider though is unless you get a powered sub, you need a separate amp & many times an external crossover - although a good 2 way x-over can be incorporated into your current system with nice results running the sub frequency to the sub & the full range to the current JBL's.  This will allow you greater control & fexibility within your entire sound as well.

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I currently have a crown amp but I really didn't want to lug that around if I could avoid it. If I did use this amp or purcased a powered sub how would I run it from the mixer? And is the cross over still required for either one? Thanks again.

Depends on the powered sub whether or not you'd "need" an external x-over.  I would highly recommend one just for the tuneability & flexability for different rooms - Built in crossovers often are fixed at one frequency that does not sound good in some rooms.  Also  running an external x-over (many) will allow you to "sum" the low frequencies while sending the rest of the frequencies to your full range speakers.  W/o one, you will need to either peg-leg one side meaning signal to sub & then from sub to full range speaker for 1 channel only & the other would get the full signal - resulting in a lopsided sound - not from the sub, sub frequencies are non-directional, but your mid/highs would sound funny from one side to the other.

People often say "It's just karaoke why use a sub?"  Try one, you'll see - well rather HEAR the difference!

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If you value your singers and want to help them sing better, then fersure add a monitor.

Lonman is most correct that the monitor channel will need an EQ...In fact, monitors need EQ before mains as feedback can always be a problem whenever you locate a speaker on stage near a mic....The monitor EQ will allow you to cut the narrow freqs that cause feedback without effecting overall sound for the singer. The mains can use an EQ to help reshape the room for better sound, but for monitors it's to prevent feedback.

As far as the statement that you don't need a monitor if you place your speakers properly, that is rubbish.....Anytime you place the mains to where the singer can hear them well enuff to assist him with his voice, then the mic hears them too....If the mic hears the mains then the sound suffers from distortion and subsonic feedback.

Monitors are not a waste of money...They are at some point essential as you grow your system and develop your sound craft skills.

With the same setup I use 1 or 2 JBL eon 10 g2's for stage monitors.. The EQ in the Mackie is used for the stage monitor I can actually kneel over and adjust the volume on the monitor with the mic inches from the monitor with no feedback.

When the monitor is placed and angled right the singer has the option of standing in front and hearing mainly monitor with little efx or moving out of the 90 degrees and hearing what it sounds like from the mains. Some of the older clubs were setup with the stage enclosed where the band could only hear the monitors....


Wasnt up last year but heard the bands in Sturgiss were using Eon 15 G2's for monitors...

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I am really pleased with the Fender 1270P (powered) monitor - it is very small and puts out more than enough for all the venues I've worked.

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Bartlett, Illinois

I use 2 makie SWA1501's with my karaoke setup.

Before I detemined I want to be loud I used to use one.
Now I run a QSC PLX 3402 a 2 turbosound 115's and 2 Makie SWA 1501's it will make your ears bleed..

With 2 g2's pick up a mackie it is a great investment at $1000

If you as loud as I am you don't need monitors.

or encourage your singers to walk around instead of standing in one place.

I use this same monitor and it works quite nicely and doesn't take up too much room in the ol SUV. I used to run a Yamaha B12 monitor that sounded a bit fuller, but the Fender powered monitor does its job of allowing the singers to hear themselves quite nicely!!

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KJ, FL

Ditto on Fender unit. I use it and it puts out, I believe, 100 watts of power. Pretty decent for such a small speaker. It sound pretty decent too. I would recommend it.

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I am looking at buying a powered monitor and was leaning twards the Fender 1270p and with the comments made I am going to go ahead and get one comming.

If I purchase a JBL Eon G2 10 to use as a monitor can I daisy chain it with my G2 15's and use the controls on the G2 10 to control feedback issues? First of all does the G2 10's have EQ controls like the 15's have? Thanks  :D

Only drawback is that if someone want more vocal or more music (or less of either) just in the monitor, then you cannot do an adjustment for that without changing the entire system.  Going through the Aux send, your main system will remain constant while your monitor is adjustable per each singers needs (most of the time it will stay constant as well, but on occasion you will get a singer that likes nothing BUT vocals or nothing BUT music in the monitor).
As far as the "built in" eq, the G2 10 doesn't have any.  Besides a Hi & Lo that the G2 15 has wouldn't do squat for feedback control - that kind of eq is just designed for very minor tonal shaping.  Minimum 15 band eq for a monitor.

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