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Author:	kokeyeah [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:04 am ]
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Hello there, Does anyone konw of any top-notch karaoke "instructors" or voice coaches that are receptive to karaoke enthusiasts? Has anyone had any experience with this? thanks a lot!

Author:	Big Mike [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:28 am ]
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I've offered "karaoke lessons" in conjunction with private practice time. While I am not a voice coach, i do provide some mic handling techniques and other pointers that will help you sound better when you sing karaoke at a show.

Author:	kokeyeah [ Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:02 pm ]
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Thanks, Big Mike. Does anyone else have anything to share? I'm thinking about getting voice lessons, but I wonder if i'd be better off getting broader "karaoke lessons" covering working the crowd and all that.

Author:	Big Mike [ Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:45 pm ]
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I found a web site you might find interesting www.sing-like-a-pro.com

Author:	ChetBassetti [ Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:22 am ]
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I checked the website "sing like a pro". It had a "special offer deadline of Oct 10th". I checked again today (Oct 11th) and the Special offer deadline is now Oct 12th..I figured that to be the case. I did a search online for the girl who wrote this singing lesson "book"..I got lots of google hits from many different sites..all saying the same thing "EBOOK for sale..voice lessons etc". The only ones that did not say this was some adds in some newsletter in Winnepeg for her Karaoke SHow on Wed nites..and one other link to a website wwhere she replied condolences to the death of the guy she took her internet advertizing lessons from. Looks to me like whatever is offered in this package comes from a dubious source. If her claims to 20yrs in the music/singing business were true, I shoulda found some internet hits that talked about that.....Just an FYI

Author:	timberlea [ Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:18 am ]
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If you're serious about learning to sing or voice, do yourself a favour and go to a professional voice teacher. People are so cheap when it comes to professional. Thay'd rather go to a Backyard mechanic rather than a real one, or a renovator from a truck than an established professional because they think they will save a couple of dollars, or a "Radio Shack" karaoke host to one who has a professional system.

Author:	ChetBassetti [ Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:43 pm ]
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Timberlea..I totally agree...an old boss of mine always said..:there is no free lunch"

Author:	Cueball [ Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:47 pm ]
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I agree with what Tim just said. To add a little bit more.... Taking Voice/Vocal lessons (something that I have never done) requires a lot of time and patience. If you are serious about taking lessons, I would suggest that you go to some of your local schools and talk to the Music Teachers there. Ask them for some recommendations for a good Instructor. Also, check out your local YMCA. They sometimes offer Music programs, and might be able to help you find a good instructor. One more thing.... Don't expect to see results right away. It takes some time. After a few weeks you might start to see some results. As for knowing whether you have a good instructor, or if he's just taking your money, one person in the music business told me that after about 5 or 6 months of regular lessons, if you are starting to feel frustrated, then that instructor is no good for you, and you should seek another.

Author:	dave-sinatra [ Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:12 am ]
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This discussion about voice lessons brings back a regret. After I had sang some Bruce Springsteen this pretty blonde wanted to give me voice lessons. I said no cause I figured it was a shakedown. But now that I think about it, that was pretty stupid. I should have made up some story of how I worked seven days a week and only could fit in a lesson at midnight on a Friday night. Oh the music we might have made together. :( Lonely Heart

Author:	n3vino [ Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:42 pm ]
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To follow up what Cueball said. When I was in college, many years ago, I took a voice course. It wasn't a singing course but a speaking correctly course. But many of the things that we covered, I was able to use to develop my singing voice too. We learned how our body produces sound, we learned breathing, voice excercises, and warm up exercises. We also learned how to use the cavaties in our head to resonate the sound. Think of it this way. An acoustic guitar uses the box to produce and resonate the sound. Then there is a very important factor ,which is singing on key. The way I do it is to record and listen to myself to see how well I'm staying on key and correct the parts that need correcting. I also stay focused when I'm singing. But all the above is not as effective without good delivery, phrasing, and accenting. In other words, style. I do that by listening to good singers on the radio or on CD's. I listen to how singers manuever the notes and words. Then I apply my own style to songs that I sing. I guess you could say that I try to make the audience feel what I'm singing. What I would like to learn is showmanship. I'm a little shy when it comes to that part of performing. One thing I would like to add. Since I'm not a natural, I had to work hard at it. I'm still working hard at it. Hope that helps.

Author:	Elisha [ Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:25 am ]
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Hi there! I am Elisha Ewonchuk and I would like to reply to your post personally. I own Sing Like A Pro and I wanted to say that I appreciate your comments, and I understand that people shopping on the internet for any product have excellent reasons to be cautious! I am as well when I have to purchase something online. Just like any business owner, I run different promotions and the one I am currently running is working well for me, so I have no reason at this point to disable it, however I do run it from day to day to continue my marketing tests. I think that outstanding quality and customer service speak for themselves, and I assure you all of my customers and subscribers are completely happy with my product, and the level of customer service I provide. I am concentrating more now on my internet presence and am in the process of growing, so there will be more about me showing up online soon. In the friendliest way possible, I would like to ask that you please not suggest I am not a credible source, because you have had no dealings with me to support that. Thank you for your comment Mike, I appreciate it. I look forward to reading any replies! Elisha Ewonchuk Sing Like A Pro

Author:	Elisha [ Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:32 pm ]
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Oh Yeah, and P.S, If you are looking to improve your stage presence at karaoke, from my experiences the people that look and sound the best on stage are the comfy ones. They sing songs they really know well, they might have a couple cheesy but cute signature dance moves, and they smile a lot. One other thing though, make sure you are taking a proper breath before singing. If you don't, you can end up running out to quickly, which leads to rapid heart beat, which leads to a botched job! (never fun) For your songs, try speaking out the words to a song before you go on and sing it, with a controlled breath. This helps you decide where in the song is best to pause for breaths, and in turn makes you more comfy ! Elisha

Author:	Jian [ Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:24 pm ]
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I remember your first post here, and I did check the link that Mike posted. I had a good feeling that it was you, but never realy cross check. You do have a good product to offer.

Author:	Elisha [ Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:22 pm ]
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Thank you! I worked very hard on it. Elisha

Author:	JazzyBaggz [ Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:28 pm ]
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[font=andalus]Lessons can do nothing but make you a better musician if you are willing to put the time, money, and EFFORT into them. As one who has taken classical singing lessons in college, I suggest that you go this route if you are most interested in the foundations of singing.. BUT If you are more into popular styles and the music industry, I think a vocal coach would be preferable. I'm considering getting one myself [/font]

Author:	jdmeister [ Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:21 pm ]
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Many times, I've thought of professional voice lessons... Sources I've found, the local Jr College, Adult schools, and of all places, inside the pages of Karaoke Scene Magazine..

Author:	timberlea [ Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:31 pm ]
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JD, you just need professional help period.

Author:	jdmeister [ Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:45 pm ]
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Thanks Tim.. LOL

Author:	Tom Eaton [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:12 pm ]
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Has anyone here actually taken lessons from a vocal coach (not classical like Jazzy had, but to learn to sing popular music better)? I'd be interested to know what sort of things they have you do. I read a book by a vocal coach with an accompanying CD that was interesting, but it was just an introduction where you practiced scales and octave jumps and things like that, and it never got into singing actual songs.

Author:	Elisha [ Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:56 pm ]
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I took both classical singing and speech level singing, which deals more with what you are trying to learn. It has some very interesting scales that you need to practice to improve certain things about your voice, but at the same time it teaches you how to incorporate what you've learned into actual songs. The only thing about speech level singing is that it's difficult to find a one-on-one coach that will teach you that. I learned from several different teachers, most of which were the singing instructors for different musicals I was in. Those types of teachers will pretty much only teach speech level singing, because they need you to be able to sing the actual songs in no time flat. Speech level singing can produce results fairly quickly, depending on how often you practice. Contrary to what many believe, practicing singing once a month is not enough if you are trying to get better at it!

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