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klover
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:07 pm |
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has anyone experienced with this usb mixer ? I'm about to get this one....and i'm a newbie in recording...heeehehe. all suggesstions would be greatly appreciated....thanksz.....below is product discription for the mixer
http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--EDIM100FX
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Jian
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:04 am |
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Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:18 pm Posts: 4080 Location: Serian Been Liked: 0 time
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Expensive, for less you get a mackie DFX12
http://www.zzounds.com/item--MACDFX12
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:30 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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Don't care for Edirol - especially for that price. If you are just starting out & NEED the USB connection, give the Alesis MultiMix a shot. Cheaper, will do more than the Edirol & comes with Cubase LE recording software.
Alesis MultiMix 8USB Mixer with USB and DSP
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Micky
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:15 am |
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Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:13 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Montreal, Canada Been Liked: 34 times
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And if you don't really need a USB mixer but more of a traditional mixer with DSP, this Yamaha seems to have a great value!
http://www.zzounds.com/item--YAMMG82FX
I'm in the process of changing my Behringer UB-1622fx for a new Yamaha MG12 with out the fx, I own a Lexicon that will give me a lot more quality on the fx!
Am I doing the right move, is the Yamaha much better than my UB-1622??? Any advice please??
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Jian
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:59 pm |
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Micky @ Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:15 pm wrote: And if you don't really need a USB mixer but more of a traditional mixer with DSP, this Yamaha seems to have a great value! http://www.zzounds.com/item--YAMMG82FXI'm in the process of changing my Behringer UB-1622fx for a new Yamaha MG12 with out the fx, I own a Lexicon that will give me a lot more quality on the fx! Am I doing the right move, is the Yamaha much better than my UB-1622??? Any advice please??
I have use both MG16 and UB Eurorack. The Yamaha mainly for live stage show and the Behringer for Karaoke. The MG have a cleaner preamp and is any time better than the UB. The Fx in the Yamaha are also not that bad.The MG16 and MG12 are the same thing just less channel strips,so its a good buy.
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Lonman
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:45 am |
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TeriJo @ Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:41 pm wrote: I have a UB2442Pro fx and I love it. , but I know I actually like it better than the Mackie Equivalent ...... Cleaner sound. Teri Jo
I'm sorry that just struck me as REALLY funny! I also have the UB2442FX-PRO & it is complete garbage.
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Micky
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:11 am |
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Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:13 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Montreal, Canada Been Liked: 34 times
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Thanks Badsinger for your report and I'll go ahead and purchased the MG16!
I'm looking for a better mic pre-amp, Mackie was an option, but they appeared to be a bit over price and with this new line from Yamaha, everywhere I read on the web, they say it's a best buy!
Will the main output sound better on my monitors or will it sound like the UB?
Thanks!
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Jian
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:47 am |
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Micky @ Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:11 pm wrote: Thanks Badsinger for your report and I'll go ahead and purchased the MG16!
I'm looking for a better mic pre-amp, Mackie was an option, but they appeared to be a bit over price and with this new line from Yamaha, everywhere I read on the web, they say it's a best buy!
Will the main output sound better on my monitors or will it sound like the UB?
Thanks!
ANYTIME BETTER
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karaokemeister
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:56 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:56 am Posts: 1373 Location: Pensacola, Florida Been Liked: 0 time
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I can tell you that the Mackie Onyx pre-amps kick butt! I have them on my new mixer and they rock! Much cleaner than anything I've used in the past - and I really liked the pre-amps on my Soundcraft board.
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TeriJo
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:31 pm |
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Micky @ Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:11 am wrote: Thanks Badsinger for your report and I'll go ahead and purchased the MG16!
I'm looking for a better mic pre-amp, Mackie was an option, but they appeared to be a bit over price and with this new line from Yamaha, everywhere I read on the web, they say it's a best buy!
Will the main output sound better on my monitors or will it sound like the UB?
Thanks!
Well, I guess it's perception, or the people using the Mackie's that I've heard don't know how to set their EQ. Either way, I'm happy with what I have. It works great for my vocals, my acoustic guitar, and my vocals. All my subs are through that mixer. There is plenty I don't like about it, like the Control out doesn't sound much like the Main Outs.. So recording and listening thru the headphone jacks is a joke. But, straight out sound, I like it.. sue me .
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Jian
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:39 pm |
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karaokemeister @ Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:56 am wrote: I can tell you that the Mackie Onyx pre-amps kick butt! I have them on my new mixer and they rock! Much cleaner than anything I've used in the past - and I really liked the pre-amps on my Soundcraft board.
Never have the chance to use a Mackie, but from the reputation it have they sure SHOULD have a better pre than an MG. Love to have a hand on an Onyx or those from Soundcracft.
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karaokemeister
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:38 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:56 am Posts: 1373 Location: Pensacola, Florida Been Liked: 0 time
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The Soundcraft Compact 10 board is great for recording to a DAW. All in all I'd probably still be using it if it had any sort of Aux/Send return so I could use it for live music (it doesn't).
The Mackie Onyx 1620 I just got and used for the first time at a show the other night but played with it at home for about a week beforehand.. It works wonderfully and the sound is AWESOME. The Onyx pre's sure live up to the reputation.
And yes, I'm not a hardcore pro audio person like some here, but I REALLY like what I heard. Either that or I'm still trying to justify spending what I did on the 1620! I could have gotten a DFX-12 or CFX-12 for a fraction of the price. But the firewire option will be going in shortly and I think I can use the firewire for playing my 'bumper music'. It will truly be sweet when it's done. I just need Lonman to come up and go over everything with me for a week or two and perform a complete brain dump so I don't feel so much like an idiot when I ask questions!
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Micky
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:53 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:13 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Montreal, Canada Been Liked: 34 times
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Folks, let me share my experienced!
I decided I was going to replace my UB-1622 with a new Yamaha MG16/4 thinking I should be able to improve my mic pre-amp, so, I visited 3 pro stores and asked them if that would be a smart move? Well, guess what, all of them said I would probably improve the customer service if needed, if I buy the Yamaha, but overall I would get the same poor pre-amp, so I said, how about going with a Mackie? They said, again, you'll get the same poor pre-amp! I couldn't believe it, so I said what's my solution than, they all said, get yourself a mic tube pre-amp and they all suggested what they call THE best buy, it's the TUBEpre from PreSonus, I paid $149,00 CND ($99,00 us)! I can't beleive the difference it makes, I'M AMAZED!!
I will probably change my UB for the Yamaha just to be on the safe side, in case I ever have a problem... but to be honest, I have no problems with it and what ever brand you buy, they all have poor mic pre-amp!!
Check this out, it's worth every penny!
http://www.presonus.com/tubepre.html
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Jian
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:04 pm |
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Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:18 pm Posts: 4080 Location: Serian Been Liked: 0 time
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Remember that you have 8 of those preamp on an MG 16 and that it have more functions. An outboard pre is almost always better than a pre from a mixer of those range.
_________________ I can neither confirm nor deny ever having or knowing anything about nothing.... mrscott
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karaokemeister
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:19 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:56 am Posts: 1373 Location: Pensacola, Florida Been Liked: 0 time
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The Onyx pre's in the 1620 are the same basic pre's you find in the Mackie Onyx stand alone pre's. I can assure you of one thing - the Onyx mixer line from Mackie should be the new flagship of their entire line. The pre's are awesone, the 4 channel eq is VERY sweet and having the ability to add firewire at any point without an external box is very, very sweet.
I've also found out that I can drop in the firewire card and capture up to 34 channels of audio at the same time (using 2 mixers chained together).With that kind of power it rivals some of the desks that are out there. BTW, I plan to start doing my DJ work over firewire in the near future. When I do I'll drop the external sound card and hook the mixer directly to my computer playing the music directly over the firewire inputs. I can do the same with my karaoke tracks once I move to a computer based show for that as well.
Could I have gotten better preamps? Possibly, but it would take up more rack space and add that much more weight to my already heavy box. But don't take my word for it, I'm just trying to justify what I spent on a Mackie Onyx 1620! Try dropping into your local store and checking out the Mackie Onyx Pre amps for youreself or just read the reviews by industry professionals.... The only complaint I've heard on the mackie onyx line of mixers is the firewire outputs are pre eq/pre insert/pre fader - which makes sense if you're mixing down on a DAW. That is the ONLY complaint I've heard on this mixer thus far.
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