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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:54 pm 
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ok, heres the deal, I am in a karaoke contest with theme nights. One of the nights is r and b night. what do I sing? Does it have to be "hump" music? Like the whole r kelly, boys to men, n'sync deal? Or can I sing something from some of the acts like stevie ray vaughn who are based off of the original r + b masters like bb king and robert johnson? thanx for the help ya all       timbo

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Well this is a track listing from a Music Maestro "R&B" set, so I would assume anything like these or similarly would work.

Three Times A Lady
     Commodores

Fallin'
     Alicia Keys

Give Me The Night
     George Benson

Embraceable You
     Oleta Adams

Caribbean Queen
     Billy Ocean

I'll Make Love To You
     Boys II Men

Don't Leave Me This Way
     Thelma Houston

I Can See Clearly Now
     Jimmie Cliff

First Time Ever I Saw Your Face
     Roberta Flack

I Swear
     All For One

Breathe Again
     Toni Braxton

Get Down Tonight
     KC/ Sunshine

Exhale (Shoop Shoop)
     Whitney Houston

Baby Come To
     Patti Austin/ James Ingram

Get Ready
     Temptatioms

I've Got Love On My Mind
     Natalie Cole

Higher And Higher
     Jackie Wilson

If Ever You're In My Arms Again
     Peabo Bryson

Didn't We Almost Have It All
     Whitney Houston

Sittin' On The Dock Of The Bay
     Otis Redding

U Remind Me
     Usher

Back At One
     Brian McKnight

Everybody Plays A Fool
     Main Ingredients

Every Beat Of My Heart
     Gladys Knight. Pips

Didn't I Blow Your Mind (This Time)
     Delfonics

Easy
     Commodores

Waterfalls
     TLC

For You
     Kenny Latimer

Inseparable
     Natalie Cole

When A Man Loves A Woman
     Perry Sledge

Get Here
     Oleta Adams

Gangsta's Paradise
     Coolio

Killing Me Softly
     Fugees

Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me
     Mel Carter

Hit The Road Jack
     Shirly Horn

I Believe I Can Fly
     R. Kelly

Try A Little Tenderness
     Otis Redding

Lovin' You
     Minnie Ripperton

Feel Like Making Love
     Roberta Flack

Too Hot
     Kool And Giang

I'm In The Mood
     John Lee Hooker

On Bended Knee
     Boys II Men

Miss You Like Crazy
     Natalie Cole

My Love
     Lionel Richie

Brick House
     Commodores

I Feel For You
     Chaka Khan

It's So Hard To Say Goodbye
     Boys II Men

New Attitide
     Patti Labelle

So Much In Love
     All For One

Neither One Of Us
     Gladys Knight/ Pips

You'll Never Find ( Another Love Like Mine)
     Lou Rawls

I Wanna Know
     Joe

Just Because
     Anita Baker

One In A Million
     Larry Graham

Me And Mr. Jones
     Billy Paul

Never Knew Love Like This Before
     Stephanie Mills

One Hundred Ways
     James Ingram

Lady Marmalade
     Patti Labelle

On The Wings Of Love
     Jeffery Osborne

Sunny
     Bobby Hebb

You Are The Sunshine Of My Life
     Stevie Wonder

Let's Stay Together
     Al Green

It's The Same Old Song
     Four Tops

Mercy Mercy Me
     Marvin Gaye

Walk On By
     Dionne Warwick

Never Never Gonna Give You Up
     Barry White

No Woman No Cry
     Fugees

Suddenly
     Billy Ocean

Family Affair
     Mary J. Blige

Vision Of Love
     Mariah Carey

Tell It Like It Is
     Aaron Neville

On Broadway
     George Benson

We're In This Love Together
     Al Jarreau

One Moment In Time
     Whitney Houston

Pride And Joy
     Marvin Gaye

Sexual Healing
     Marvin Gaye

Show And Tell
     Al Wilson

Since You Been Gone ( Sweet Sweet Baby)
     Aretha Franklin

Kiss From A Rose
     Seal

Still
     Lionel Richie

Tears On My Pillow
     Little Anthony

Two Lovers
     Mary Wells

End Of The Road
     Boys II Men

Think
     Aretha Franklin

Unbreak My Heart
     Toni Braxton

La La Means I Love You
     Delfonics

Unchain My Heart
     Ray Charles

Where Do Broken Hearts Go
     Whitney Houston

You're My First, My Last, My Everything
     Barry White

Just Once
     James Ingram

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:43 pm 
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thanks lon, you da man!

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Anything by the Temptations, Miracles, Otis Redding, Marvin Gay, Aretha Frankilin, anything Motown

BB King, Robert Johnson fall in the traditional Deep Texas Blues category not really R & B

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Three Times a Lady.  Crank up the bass.

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R&B = Rhythm and Blues

Those guys gave you a good sense of oldies R&B, but pretty much any song you hear on the radio that has that deep backbeat but is singing and not rap is R&B as well, like:

Usher
Destiny's Child/Beyonce
R. Kelly
Mariah Carey
Bow Wow
Kanye West
Alicia Keys
Janet Jackson
Prince
Brandy

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:13 am 
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I always think of Motown when I think of R & B.  But that was my era.  Riding the school bus listening to a mixture of Yes, Pink Floyd and the Temptations.

Maybe that is why I like Motown so much today.  I was so into rock that I missed out on how good Motown really was.

You Can't Hurry Love (Diana Ross--Phil Collins redid it) is my favorite.  Very difficult to sing though.

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And of course if you could actually do "Let's Stay Together" and make it sound good...you might find yourself in a band one day.

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[quote="Lonman @ Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:27 pm"]Well this is a track listing from a Music Maestro "R&B" set, so I would assume anything like these or similarly would work.

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Brick House
     Commodores

If brick house is on the list, does anyone think that it would be safe to assume that play that funky music white boy would be considered r and b?

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Brick House is kind of disco.  "White Boy" is definitely disco.  Anything from the seventies with a heavy driving beat that wasn't rock was probably disco.

I'm not sure what R & B is anymore either.  I'm also no longer sure where the line is between country and rock.  Oh yeah...country has a singer with a southern twang.  And women country singers tend to wear more clothing :)

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I would call Brick House and Play That Funky Music "funk" music - along with artists like the Gap Band, Parliament, Earth Wind & Fire, Rufus, AWB, etc.  

As for R&B, the classic stuff I think of would cover Barry White, Curtis Mayfield, Spinners, O'Jays, etc.   I think it's expanded a bit these days.   In fact, Billboard combines R&B and HipHop in a single chart.  I would have thought HipHop & Rap would have been a better pairing, but that music is not much of an area of interest to me (the kids like it so it pays though).  I group Hip Hop, Rap, and (current) R&B all under "Urban" in my songlists for DJ work.

Disco examples - KC, Chic, Donna Summer, Trammps, Village People, BeeGees, etc.

I think of Motown as a separate genre which would include groups like the Temps, Four Tops, Supremes, Stevie Wonder, Smokey, J5, etc.

Obviously many artists crossed over between these before, and still do today (e.g., Mariah Carey has "We Belong Together" on the Adult Contemporary chart while "Shake It Off" is on the R&B/HH chart).

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Last night I found that if I decide not to be lazy and do some internet detective work, I could have found out even before I asked that white boy is safe to sing.......Turns out it was the american music awards r & b single of the year for 1976, who da thunk it? lol       thanks again all.............

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Funk music that was "disco-ized".  They did that to rock too.  Just about everything went disco.  Didn't Simon and Garfunkle have a disco song :) ??

Did country ever go disco ???

We have a disco station here in Cincy.  It's been on the air for several years.  That's scary that the disco station may last longer than disco itself lasted :)

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